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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:37 PM Original message |
In all honesty: If the tax on sugar were raised, what would happen to the cost of a candy bar? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Their bottom line will never be reduced |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. The price of sugar is way too high. It is highly subsidized to keep the price high. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. I hear Republicans using the same argument about corporate taxes |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. This tax will affect ALL plans, as the cost to the shareholder will be distributed equally amongst |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. why would I care about shareholders? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I didn't imply that you would. I stated that ALL customers would suffer to protect the profit of a |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Ok I see what you meant - But that is just restating the old Republican canard |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. what the market will bear.. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. It's NOT a standard "pug mantra". It's how the fucking monied elite GOT THAT WAY. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. "Prices are set on what the market will bear" |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Because, as corporations, insurance companies are required to do what is best for them. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Exactly |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. How do you convince people that 3-1=2.5? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Because prices are what people will pay |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. "corporations charge whatever they can get away with." |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. The cost would remain the same, HFCS would be substituted for sugar wherever possible. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. And the funny thing is.... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. You hit the nail on the head |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. duh? |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Just prohibit them from passing on the cost to the consumer. |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. ha! what are you? 5 years old? |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
61. No, I'm a socialist, which probably amounts to the same thing. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Shall we "beef up" the windfall profit laws BEFORE, or AFTER we pass HCR? |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Why pass HCR? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. Ok, technical answer time. |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. whew, that was a lot of words. what about the price of my candy bar? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The price will go up. How far up it goes depends on how much people want it. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. That is not true |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. That is only true when customers are free to say no, |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. i thought so. the price of my candy bar is always going up. oh! and i needs my candy bar! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Let me see if I read this right. Health insurance is an "inelastic" good because it's MANDATED. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I'd say it tends toward inelastic, you have to have something after all. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Or go right on smoking, but smoke cheaper cigarrettes. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. BUT WITHOUT CHESTERFIELDS MY T-ZONE WILL GET ALL FUCKED UP!!!!11!!! |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
15. candy bars have not been made with sugar since the 1980's |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. Stop eating candy bars and save your money... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Bingo. n/t |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #21 |
50. Sorry. We're gonna mandate that you eat candy bars. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. But When Taxes Are Cut |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. No. They don't. Simple answer to a stupid question. We're NOT talking about tax CUTS. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. That's a different phenomenon. |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. Wrong analogy, moosebreath |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. "because the chocolates are so yummy they just couldn't resist" |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Do you serve Dramamine with that spin? Or Bonine? n/t |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Neither, just hard doses of progressive economics |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. A few points I'd like to make: Insinuating that I'm a republican won't keep me from criticizing |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
37. Sugar is hitting an all time high thanks to wall street going after commodities markets. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Or stop getting sick I guess. Or stop giving birth to children who aren't physically perfect... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
40. you have got it exactly backwards. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Okay, let's play. How does a company become more competitive? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. Prez of United Steelworkers scoffs at those who say wages will go up |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
48. Actually a sugar tax would hardly affect candy bars at all - |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 02:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. OH. Damn... There goes my analogy. Do they still use wheat to make bread? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No real point - I just have a thing against HFCS and that was the first |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. My apologies. Not a fan of HFCS myself. I now wish I would have used HFCS instead of sugar. n/t |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
53. How the fuck does a 'Puke talking point get positive recs? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. LOL |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Yesterday, taking care of others was a problem |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
54. We need a massive economic boycott of everything that isn't |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
58. Chain reaction, of course |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-10-10 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
60. The market for cadillac health plans is not the same as the market for candy bars |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
63. Is that tax on High Fructose Corn Crap too? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-11-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
64. K&R. That is economic common sense. |
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