OMG Jesse Ventura Is Doing Conspiracy Theories!

[Me.]

Was surfing. Today's topic is the truth about 9/11 being an inside job.

[SpiralHawk]

1. "MIHOP. Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)

[SpiralHawk]

2. "Sneer." - xVP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney (R)

"No Family Values (smirk) republicon chickenhawk would ever entertain any facts about 9/11. Sneer."

- xVP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney (R)

[jobycom]

3. Surely there are some good CTs that tie him in to Wellstone's crash.

I mean, he was in Minnesota, Wellstone was in Minnesota... that's all the proof we need!

[azurnoir]

4. Word on the street up here was that is a plot

headed by Norm Coleman, cause it was the only effing way he was going to win the election

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Norm Coleman couldn't head a parade if the entire band lined up

behind him and handed him a baton.

He may have been the beneficiary, but it would be those he sold his soul to who were behind it.

[myrna minx]

11. Too true.

:rofl: The only thing he can do on his own is chase women, scored by the Benny Hill theme.

[jobycom]

12. He ain't smart enough.

There aren't many conspiracy theories I believe, but I have to admit to some doubts here. I can believe the official story--it's easy to stall a plane when you are trying to slow down too fast in bad weather and you are inexperienced at instrument flying--but on the other hand, the connection of the co-pilot to Moussaoui, and the benefit it gave Bush, and the co-pilot's last minute goodbye to his mother... You know?

[azurnoir]

18. There is a part of the "official" story that does not line up

and that is the arrival time of the FBI(?) at the crash site, the time from their office in Duluth to site of crash in Evelth is far too short.

My comment about Coleman was actually a joke, it was a sort of gallows humor in these parts at the time

[jobycom]

21. There's nothing wrong with the time, that's just one of those CT rumors.

The CTers claim that the wreck wasn't discovered until 11:15 and the FBI got there at noon, and that the Minneapolis office was the one who sent agents, and it's 40 minutes flying time. Further, they point out that the FBI drove, instead of flying.

That's all been debunked and/or explained. There were agents from both offices, and all drove. Two were from the Duluth office and were on duty and driving when they got the call, so it took maybe half an hour. The agent from Minneapolis got there at 3 pm. The fire and police were already there before the first FBI agent, and they weren't much closer when they got the call.

That's why I lean towards it just being a crash. As with almost every CT I've studied, the facts are heavily distorted or completely ignored by the CTers. But I can't shake some of the legitimate questions about the timing, the convenience, and some odd connections about the co-pilot. IF there was something behind it, the CTers, as always, are looking in the wrong places.

[azurnoir]

24. The drive time is the problem

Evelth is almost 60 miles west of Duluth, check out Googles estimated times

http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=eveleth+mn&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Eveleth,+MN&gl=us&ei=yiRKS8J4hsQ245i1kAk&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAsQ8gEwAA

for whatever reason this is not working what has to be done is to enter Duluth MN to Eveleth MN in Google maps

ETA I have driven this more than once trust me even doing 90 mph (my younger wilder days) it takes longer than a 1/2 hour

[jobycom]

30. But they weren't in Duluth when they got the call.

They were in the field, in that direction, and they got to use their lights. It's not enough to prove anything to me. Anyway, what could two agents in personal cars do with the plane still burning and local fire and police watching?

The pilots had a history of complaints and firings for bad piloting, they were under IFRs, and there was a beacon guiding planes off course at the airport. I still see ways they could have done it, but it really looks like an accident. But still, it's a hard one to be convinced of.

[Don Caballero]

5. He is such a dope

One of his conspiracy theory shows was how climate change was not man made. The man is a kook and should be ignored.

[MindPilot]

25. Have you actually watched the show?

There is a lot of manufactured suspense, OMFG! revelations and the show doesn't even pretend to provide any answers. But it is honest in that its intent is to demonstrate that the questions have some validity.

On the show about global warming, it was not a denial at all (Ventura praised Al Gore as a personal friend and an advocate for environmental stewardship) and it didn't really even go much into the question about whether or not human activity is causal. Its primary focus was the shadowy figures who are lining up behind the huge amount of money to be made in cap & trade.

[zanana1]

7. And this surprises you how? nt

[Me.]

9. First...That He Even Got A Show

Second...That they got advertisers to pay for it...like Kellogg's, CNN, Vonage and Time Warner

[jtrockville]

14. He has a show? What channel?

Who knew?

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. Of course, the PTB love this, because if they can slip a couple REAL

conspiracies into the pot, get them stirred in with the real kooky stuff, they automatically discredit them. Because, as we've seen here on this forum, ALL CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE THE SAME.

[MineralMan]

8. Worst Damn Governor of Minnesota -- Ever!

Truly.

[myrna minx]

10. I don't know - it's seems as the years go by, they continue to get worse and worse.

I remember complaining about Arne until Jesse came along. I found Ventura to be thin skinned and gawd awful* until Pawlenty. Sorry I have to go with Pawlenty as the worst. :D

*I do remember having a sigh of relief that I would never, ever have to hear Ventura refer to "my budget" ever again.

[azurnoir]

19. Hey I'd take Jesse over Timmy in a second

but then again I'd take my neighbor's cat over Timmy

[jwirr]

20. Amen and Pawlenty's model.

[MineralMan]

29. Despite Thin Polenta's viable claim,

I still maintain that Ventura was the worst. He's a perfect example of what happens when a lame third-party candidate gets elected. He was never qualified for the job, didn't really do the job, and gave up on the job when it got boring.

Polenta's just a moron GOOPer. His career in politics will be finished, once he fails to gain any traction for the 2012 election, and that's guaranteed. He'll never be elected to anything again in Minnesota, other than, maybe, a congress critter in some dumbass district.

But, Ventura? He takes the cake.

[ramblin_dave]

13. If you want to discredit an idea, get a buffoon to promote it nt

[flyarm]

15. EXCELLENT SHOWS..TODAY THEY ARE RUNNING RE-RUNS OF HIS SHOWS..

the Show on Bilderbergs is excellent..watch it..after all the years of telling my hubby this stuff..after he saw the Lederberg show he went to book store and bought a book on Bidlerbergs..it true ly spooked my husband to finally pay attention! ( make sure you listen carefully and hear the talk of Tim Geithner and kissinger!! which i have been posting about for almost a year now!)

For many of us here..it is like a college 101 course..but Jesse does an incredible job telling the stories and not going over board to frighten people but to inspire them to do their own research on the subjects. And introduction to the conspiracies..

Make sure to watch..it is well worth your time..

The 9/11 segment is incredible..everything i have been screaming about for years as a flight crew for one of the 9/11 airlines.NY based.

the Manchurian / MKULTRA segment is eye opening as well!

Watch it..tape it and share it with others..tell others about Jesse's show..

[earth mom]

22. I think you're right.

I don't like the way the information was presented, but it's probably a good introduction for people who haven't heard about any of it yet.

It really is a break through after all, so I take back my criticism of the show in the DU 911 forum. :spank:

[Desertrose]

27. This info needs to get out more and if it takes Jesse to do it....

:shrug: I guess its a start anyway.

[MindPilot]

26. +1

[Me.]

28. Interesting

[Mnpaul]

32. They are on youtube

User CopsClips has uploaded them all. The global warming one was pretty lame. If you goggle all his experts, you see most of them are quacks(so much for the crack investigative team). The 9/11 one was weak on proof. The MK Ultra, the Bildeburgers and the HAARP episodes were pretty good.

[90-percent]

16. I like the show

much of the material has some merit, some maybe not so much.

At least somebody out there is covering a subject that needs a lot of coverage!

The big brother episode was thought provoking. If you are an objective critical thinker, I think you will find the show has some merit.

-90% jimmy

[MilesColtrane]

23. He didn't just play a Man In Black on the "X Files", he IS one!

[jobycom]

31. Sure he's not one of the aliens?

:)