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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:19 PM
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2012? hahahahaha. Die, all you people, die! Yes, the fluffy dog too!
Just saw the film and aside from laughing at the cheesy effects and wtf pseudoscience, and wishing they'd all die, the popcorn was good.

One acquaintance told me he'd started looking into the 2012 end of the world thing after the movie and there was a lot to it.

Seriously?

Another friend told me the makers of the movie spent a bunch of time, energy, money, on internet stuff way before the movie and this is where a lot of it came from. (from wiki:"The trailer ended with a message to viewers to "find out the truth" by searching "2012" on search engines.")

A "teacher" (in quotes because I learned little) told me that having north and south poles is why we have gravity, leading me to wonder what happens as the poles shift.

I dunno, maybe I'm just ignorant and stuck in my own little world?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:23 PM
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1. So how did your teacher explain gravity in the rest of the solar system and
universe as well? Is there an infinite north and south pole at the top and bottom of the universe that we don't know about?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:41 PM
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2. She didn't.
"every cell in our bodies has a north and a south pole. every limb has a north and south pole. our entire body has a north and a south pole, like the earth does. it has a north pole and a south pole and this is why we have gravity!" At which point I winced, looked down and decided to not engage her any further but simply to get through the class.

I bet she survives 2012, is one of those lucky people who continually escape city after city, eruption after eruption, at the last minute. I bet SHE could fly a plane fast enough to escape the Yellowstone caldera eruption's ash cloud.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:28 PM
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12. That's the first sensible explanation
of gravity I've ever heard. :rofl:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:43 PM
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3. did this teacher happen to know the difference
between gravity and magnetism? it doesn't sound as if he/she does.

sP
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:47 PM
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4. Ay-yi-yi!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:51 PM
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5. That is not why we have gravity.
But it does explain the sad state of science education in the US.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:52 PM
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6. Sounds like many folks here at DU
got their scientific education from this teacher. Luckily you were smart enough to realize she was full of shit.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:16 PM
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7. Great galloping ignorance.
I have no idea why most people prefer witless fantasy to fact, but they do.

What the Maya themselves would tell us is that the only thing that changes on Dec 21, 2012 is the prefix on the calendar date. The fourth prefix comes to a close and the fifth prefix begins. It's like rolling over from the 1000s to the 2000s ten years ago, although that drove ignorant and superstitious people bonkers, too.

I just find it especially disheartening that one of these people is a teacher.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:27 PM
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8. "teacher", though to be fair in a private secondary ed program
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:35 PM
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9. So them people that have a "magnetic personality" simply have larger poles?
:crazy:


Nothing will happen to us in 2012, unless there's a massive solar flare that fries us with x-rays. Neutrinos won't "mutate" and cause the earth's crust to melt. The south pole won't move to Wisconsin. Planet X isn't on the move for impact with Earth.

Even if Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck become Pres and Veep, they won't get the keys to the White House until 2013.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:39 PM
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10. That's a whole bucket full of stupid you got there
:rofl:
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caitxrawks Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:40 PM
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11. my mom keeps telling me that 2012 is "in the bible".
I don't speak to my mother that much anymore, in case you were wondering.

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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:39 PM
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13. you won't be laughing on 12/22/2012! i saw that movie. we all die!
yikes!!!

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:41 PM
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14. Emmerich fucked up the formula to a Godzilla movie.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to get that wrong?

'Nuff said.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:45 PM
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15. Just because a special effects works once doesn't mean it works to repeat over and over and over
Ooooo, a plane barely takes off and has to avoid buildings! Let's do that one again but BIGGER! Ooooo, town has chasms and is crashing into ruins. Let's do that one again. And again. and again. oooo, another town that we can show going down in flames.

When they announced they were going to crash into the mt towards the end, a friend stood up in the theater and applauded.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:48 PM
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16. As an FX freak I'll watch his movies....
...but don't ask me to like them! ;)
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:19 AM
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18. The special effects were pretty lame in this movie though.
Don't you think?
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:18 AM
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17. heh... I couldn't even watch the entire movie...
They could have made a half-way decent movie if they actually tried to make a story to go with the lame special-effects.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:14 AM
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20. If they'd made up either care about the characters, or had decent fx, but no
neither. It could have been a good movie but I really didn't care about anyone there and got tired of repeating fx
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:23 AM
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21. Somebody should do a remake of "Crack in the World"
Using the special effects from "2012". "Crack in the World" has always been on of my favorite cheesy SF movies. It's even topical with geothermal energy and thermonuclear devices. And who can resist dialog like this:

Sir Charles Eggerston: A crack in the world?

Sir Charles Eggerston: Gentlemen! Gentlemen! Dont let this fall apart. We have work to do. We must hear Dr Rampion complete his report. You were saying that the crack is extending to the east.
Dr. Ted Rampion: Along the Macedo Trench. It's following a geological flaw in the Earth's crust, known as the Macedo Fault. That runs from here, to the tip of India, veers off towards Indonesia, and terminates off the Australian continental shelf.
Sir Charles Eggerston: How do you know that the crack will stop there?
Dr. Ted Rampion: We don't.
Sir Charles Eggerston: What if the crack keeps going? Right around the world? What happens then?
Dr. Ted Rampion: Where the land masses split, the oceans will be sucked in, and the colossal pressure generated by the steam will rip the Earth apart, and destroy it.
Indian Ambassador: You mean, the world will come to an end?
Dr. Ted Rampion: The world as we know it, yes.

Dr. Ted Rampion: Suppose the Macedo trench splits open under the ocean? A crack a thousand miles long, bringing superheated magma in contact with the ocean... Earthquakes, tidal waves, mass destruction on an apocalyptic scale!


Of course, it would be hard to match the talents of Dana Andrews and Janette Scott for the lead characters.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:31 AM
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23. I had to look up and see if that was from Crack of 2012, could've been either
I'll have to see if I can find that movie, looks like fun.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:29 PM
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24. It is a fun movie - and decent character development, too n/t
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:24 AM
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19. Ummm NO - I hope the teacher doesn't teach science..
if so he/she should be fired.

gravity is an intrinsic property of all matter magnetic or otherwise and is actually an attractive force between bodies of matter that follows the law:

a1=m2*G/r^2 or F=m1a1=m1*m2*G/r^2

where a is acceleration, F is force, m1 is mass of body 1, m2 is mass of body 2, G is the universal gravitational constant and r is the distance between the centers of gravity of bodies 1 and 2.

Doug De Clue
Bachelor of Aerospace Engineering
Georgia Tech
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:26 AM
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22. She wasn't teaching science but Polarity
An Energy work thing, class I had to take. It got to the point when she, or another teacher, would say something like this,I would wince and look down while all the other students looked at me to see what I'd say or do. Sometimes I'd take them up on it, a lot of the time, sometimes I would just let it go because it wasn't a science class and most of us there were smart enough to know what bs it was.

It was only a week long class, but it was a long week.
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