John McCain had planned to name Joe Lieberman as his Vice Presidential running mate.

[David Zephyr]

"In an interview with the CBS news magazine '60 Minutes,' Steve Schmidt described Palin as "very calm — nonplussed' after McCain met with her at his Arizona ranch just before putting her on the Republican ticket. McCain had planned to name Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., as his vice presidential choice until word leaked, sparking what Schmidt called political blowback over picking the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee."

DEMOCRATS DO NOT NEED THIS FUCKER TO HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE OR TO CONTROL THE COMMITTEES OR TO HAVE SUBPEOENA POWER.

IF HARRY REID DOESN'T DUMP THIS WORLD-CLASS BACKSTABBER AND LOVER OF WARS, THEN REID SHOULD LOSE HIS POSITION.

Is there any treachery against the Democratic Party that Joe Lieberman can't do and still be loved?

Is there any good deed that Howard Dean can do for the Democratic Party and still not get the respect he deserves?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin

[Kurt Remarque]

1. old news

but...lieberman must go. he's making his own bed, narcissistic ass that he is

[Bluebear]

2. You know, Gore-Lieberman strikes me in a whole new light now.

Of course, Gore won, but that VP....what would have became of us?

[Jim Lane]

14. You can flame me for this, but I don't think Lieberman would've been all that bad as VP

Lieberman is a man of very flexible principles who always has his own self-interest foremost in mind. As Gore's VP, his interest would've been to be loyal to President Gore (I just had to go out of my way to write that phrase -- sigh), to attack the Republicans, and to cement his support among Democrats so that he could win the nomination after Gore's two terms. He would want to ensure that he wasn't challenged from the left (e.g. by Kerry) in 2008.

His current conservatism arises partly because he thinks he's better off to be perceived as an independent thinker, unbeholden to party bosses, and partly because he's ticked off about his failures among Democrats -- his 2004 presidential bid went nowhere and then he lost the 2006 Senatorial primary. None of those factors would have been operating if the winning Gore-Lieberman ticket had actually been inaugurated.

By the way, I despise Lieberman. I was in Connecticut on primary day, playing my small role in Lamont's victory over the weasel.

[Robb]

20. Ha!

...I'll join you in holding my nose and agreeing.

I'm especially fond of the phrase "man of flexible principles." :D

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[Divine Discontent]

5. what's funny is that I've many people say that, and I read that Dems have been morally more Liberal

than Repukes, but pretty like-minded when it comes to warfare and corporate-whoredom. Sounds about right...

[Selatius]

7. That's because rich oligarchs don't care about social issues like gay marriage and abortion.

All they care about is money, so they only care about social issues only as far as it can be used to divide up the working class against itself. They don't call them "wedge" issues for nothing. Religious authoritarians care about that kind of stuff, not industrialists and bankers.

[Divine Discontent]

8. thanks for the input!

[MiniMe]

4. Reid may lose the November election, and if he does this is a non-issue

LIEberman is a first class a-hole, that is for sure.

[Bucky]

6. I'm kinda looking foreward to life without Harry next year.

Losing the (it turns out) useless 60 vote super majority is a small price to pay to show the Senate Dems it's time to stop acting like it's still 1957 and everybody in Washington is willing to put the country first. Republicans know their best chance at getting a majority in this next decade is to gum up the system with total obstructionism now and make the Dems look like failures. They don't care what problems get caused by congressional inaction so long as the problems occur under a Democratic majority and they can't be blamed.

Argh! I distinctly recall learning this lesson in 1994. Why do we have to learn it all over again?

[BeFree]

9. huh?

Republicans know their best chance at getting a majority in this next decade is to gum up the system with total obstructionism now and make the Dems look like failures.

So, they got you thinking the Dems are a failure? They won you over already?

[Bucky]

17. Yes, they've "won me over." I'm a total Republican now.

As long as you're parsing my statements on DU, please go back and re-parse the meaning of "look like failures". Jeeze, don't you have any actual conservatives to go pick a fight with?

[BeFree]

19. Yeah

It's not you, its the pervasiveness of some here that seem to be doing that.

My apologies.

[depakid]

21. Fact is that Reid's been the best player on the Republican team

even going so far as to cross over and vote with them on right wing legislation.

So quite beyond his ineptitude- the guy's been- to continue the sports metaphor "a cancer in the locker room."

Democrats are infinitely better off without him.

[BeFree]

22. Now that is a stretch n/t

[depakid]

24. Tell it to the folks screwed over by the bankruptcy bill

[progressoid]

10. I think Steve Schmidt has confused "very calm — nonplussed" with "vacant & stunned"

[WI_DEM]

11. This is nothing new--it was news at the time that McCain wanted Lieberman.

[HipChick]

12. they were together in Jerusalem this week..

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/10/135154/848

[retread]

13. Whoops! There goes the BS flag!! n/t

[windbreeze]

15. always a bridesmaid, never a bride..n/t

[Bucky]

18. "bribesmaid"

[Brother Buzz]

16. Joe Lieberman continued to drive the bus even after getting passed over

[UTUSN]

23. How much does THAT suck?!1 n/t

[Betty Karlson]

25. Surely Mr. Lieberman had more or less

counted on that VP spot as well. His ego is so mastodont-sized, his self-overestimating so obvious, the man will flex his principles any odd how - just so he can be the centre of everyone's attention. O, his arrogance!

Let us not forget he felt genuinely hurt when, in 2004, he received dismal numbers of votes in the Democratic primaries (for president). We have experience shutting out this bloviated ego. We can do it again. If only it were 2012 yet!