Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon talking about Reid and Obama....

[Captain Hilts]

TonyK says things can be racial without being racist.

Wilbon says Reid needs to shut up. Another white man wandering into an area where he doesn't know a damned thing. Negro dialect? What? I'd like to punch Reid in the face.

TK: When Lieberman was nominated to be Veep. Folks would say he doesn't sound like a Jew....not like Jackie Mason. I might have said the same thing.

Wilbon: people like Reid, they think they know something about other people. He's not light-skinned. People are smart about what they know about, what comes across their radar, but when they get outside of that, they don't know a damned thing. This is off Reid's radar. People should ridicule him. So harshly, Reid should be in the Tiger Woods fetal position.

David Aldrich, who is black: If you say Trent Lott should go for saying what he said. What the hell does "Negro dialect" mean?

Wilbon: folks think they're so smart.

Aldrich: it's THE most racist thing you can say.

Wilbon: a lot of morons think they're smart.

TK: You are a strategist in a room with the campaign. Someone asks how you elect a black man? This very topic was raised all over the country in meetings. It's a quote in a book.

Wilbon: Reid's smarter than that.

Jeanne, who's female, obviously: It's one thing to think it. It's another to say it. It's just stupid.

TK: If you are in any classroom. In a poli science class, you'd say "what are the advantages of Barack Obama?"

Wilbon: Yes, it's appropriate there. He's not a light-skinned negro!!!! It shows you can't open your eyes. It's like "they all look alike." Reid's response is stupid. The questions are okay, Reid's response is stupid. "Is this like Jimmy Walker on 'Good Times'?" Is that a negro dialect?

Wilbon: I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about the cardinals and now you've got me all worked up!

[MadBadger]

1. TK's a moron.

And I'll base that one off of his words here and not my other issues with him.

[Captain Hilts]

2. He and Wilbon have some of the best conversations about race you'll hear on the MSM.

Kornheiser and Wilbon talk about these issues a lot and TK often brings in anti-Semitism parallels.

Aldrich just mentioned the Saturday Night Live skit "How Jewish are you?"

Jeanne: folks said about Hillary "she's shrill." Things like that.

TK: The 'bitch' word is used about her all the time.

Jeanne: Context is everything. If you're at a strategy you have to have that conversation.

Aldrich: You don't say "negro dialect."

Jeanne: You don't say 'bitch' either.

TK: You'd better use those words if you are trying to anticipate what will happen.

Jeanne: what do you say at a poker table that you don't say on the radio?

Aldrich: No one has said 'negro' since 1967. Stokley Charmical. It shows an ignorance of black Americans.

TK: If Harry Reid walked in here right now I don't think I'd know him. He'd probably be shorter than I anticipated.

Aldrich: Reid was a boxer. It's the assumption that all blacks speak the same. That we're all alike.

[Captain Hilts]

3. Aldrich says the real offense is that it generalizes about black Americans in a way

that is no longer relevant. Blacks do not all talk alike. It's a modernized version of "they all look alike."