if Rush had said Obama was "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect"

[crazyjoe]

would you consider him a racist ?

[WeDidIt]

1. He's said much worse.

When is he resigning?

[malaise]

22. + 1,000 n/t

[cali]

2. context, context, context.

[MadBadger]

14. I'm pretty sure if any Republican had made that comment in the exact context...

The reaction at DU would have been a lot harsher.

[MUAD_DIB]

34. Vert true.

[laughingliberal]

37. Yep. And Rush would never have apologized if he said it. nt

[KittyWampus]

3. I'd actually like to know what Reid said between the two tiny snippets you've provided.

Got an actual FULL quote and the context?

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Mush played a song called "Barack the Magic Negro" on his pathetic radio show

So it wasn't even about a "dialect" for the OxyMoron, just the skin pigmentation. Mush doesn't even like Michael Steele, and they're supposed to be on the same team.

[apocalypsehow]

5. Haaaa ha haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaa haaa ha haaa haaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa

Who're you trying to kid? :shrug:

:rofl:

[KittyWampus]

7. transparent at this point, isn't it?

Seems a few are a little late to the game.

[tularetom]

6. No but there's that "Magic Negro" song, that "bone in the nose" remark and

a whole bunch of other reasons for me to consider him a racist.

[SteppingRazor]

8. Depends.

Was he saying that a "light-skinned" black man with "no Negro dialect" is somehow better? Then yes, I would call him racist.


Was he saying that a "light-skinned" black man with "no Negro dialect"has a better chance of winning an election in this country? Then no, I'd call him a realist living in a racist country.

And even beyond that, there's previous actions to consider. Given Rush's previous statements regarding black people (e.g. telling a caller to his show to "take the bone out of your nose"), it's more likely that he'd make a racist comment than someone like, say, Harry Reid, who doesn't have a history of making racist, bigoted remarks.

[laughingliberal]

39. +1000 nt

[blondeatlast]

9. Absolutely. Don't let a little reality get in the way of that distorted world view.

Rush has a history of making over-the-top racist remarks. Harry Reid does not.

[Captain Hilts]

13. Reid was an early Obama supporter. nt

[trumad]

10. sniff

[Dangerously Amused]

36. Do you smell what I smell...?

[trumad]

45. This thread is definitely a troll trap.

[Captain Hilts]

11. Dems and blacks said the same thing about Colin Powell for years. nt

[quinnox]

12. Epic Fail

No, because its already well known that Rush is a racist!

And there is nothing wrong with the words light skinned or negro either. Reid is an older man and negro was a common term used in his time.

[EndersDame]

15. If he is so out of touch with modern times he should think about retiring

My 80+ year old grandma knows that negro is offensive these days

[blondeatlast]

18. But you've nothing to say to the OP.

You're boring, actually.

[EndersDame]

23. I over reacted when I first heard about Harry's comments

He is no Rush for sure. It just bothers me to no end that people are excusing and rationalizing the use of the word negro.It bugs me more than Harry's comments. Perhaps it is a generational thing but negro just sounds nasty

[quinnox]

28. Look it up!

Have you ever looked up the word negro. It comes from the latin word niger which means black.

It has ancient roots in the language and there is nothing wrong with the word!

[EndersDame]

30. and c*nt has its roots with cradle and goddesses and used to be a title of respect

There is even a kick ass 3rd wave Feminist book called Cunt exploring this topic. Yet it is still highly inappropriate to use it and even more so if you are a politician. I heart Latin by the way :hi:
I would never call one of my friends cunt and would never call one of my friend a negro

http://books.google.com/books?id=CByPU90k6rMC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=barbra+walker+cunt&source=bl&ots=1YalU1wGhZ&sig=DLITuEL6NU9xh75lyF8lBslweK8&hl=en&ei=RaVLS8mMCcOWtgfupcXkDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false


http://www.amazon.com/Cunt-Declaration-Independence-Expanded-Updated/dp/1580050751/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263248804&sr=8-2

[quinnox]

33. Well that refers to a part of the female

anatomy, so it would be a slur to call someone that. But Negro means black, a color and commonly accepted term for people of that color. There is a big difference.

And why do you camouflage the word cunt anyway? Is it a banned word or something?

[EndersDame]

35. I didnt know what DU's rules are about cunt

actually if you read the link below Cunt comes from the goddess Cunti, Kunda and Cunina. Ms. Walker further explains that cunt was synonymous with women in some ancient writings

http://books.google.com/books?id=CByPU90k6rMC&pg=PA197&lpg=PA197&dq=cunt+barbra+walker&source=bl&ots=1YalU1xFiW&sig=q9IzBe0HB0-eSKxeUM-mTfyK6UA&hl=en&ei=0KhLS5LLB8aXtge8p-nkDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

[quinnox]

40. Im not aware of any rules

that disallow writing the word cunt. But I could be wrong. I don't think so, I don't think any word is banned at DU. Anyway, its obvious nothing will change your mind that negro is a slur in the same league as the word cunt is when referring to a woman, I disagree, and have shown why the argument in my opinion falls apart but won't waste any more time arguing about it.

[Socal31]

32. Well, it is on the official US census form.

[nevergiveup]

25. My 95 yr old mother-in-law in Nebraska stills refer to Obama as a "colored man"

and she proudly voted for him. I am sure that Harry wishes he had used another word other than "Negro" but the point he was attempting to make was not that much off the money. In my humble opinion this whole flap is really much to do about nothing.

[EndersDame]

31. I guess i am just too young to wrap my head around that negro used to be ok

[Quantess]

38. United Negro College Fund

Ever see their tv commercials?

[collinsjc]

41. Really?

The word Negro is offensive? Really?

Is Obama light-skinned? Yes.

Does he tend to change his dialect with the company he is in? Yes.

Is this often called the Tyra Banks complex? Yes.

Is that funny? Kinda

Worth all of the reverse-racism cross-burningesque comments? Apparently so.


Oh, btw, if the word Negro offends you, then stay away from all of the spanish speaking countries in the world.

[DireStrike]

44. Senators? Out of touch?

?!?!

I have little reason to defend Reid, but this is stupid.

[gratuitous]

16. When I consider the totality of each man's career

It's pretty obvious who might be considered racist, and who might be considered to have made a less-than-elegant remark. Don't you think? Or is this just an expression of concern, for which we will appropriately thank you, crazyjoe?

[Capn Sunshine]

17. I wondered how long it would be until "someone" asked this

I know what this means, unlike many on this board.

[DainBramaged]

19. He IS a racist, give us a break.

[Johonny]

26. pretty much

[Beaverhausen]

20. Uh- does "Barack the Magic Negro" ring any bells with you?

:eyes:

[Bobbie Jo]

21. Nice post, Pat!11!!

:eyes:

[Don Caballero]

24. Of course.

I find Reid's comments disgusting. Another reason to vote him out. Hope the voters of Nevada do the right thing.

[Quantess]

27. If Rush Limbaugh said it, nobody would bat an eye. Nobody would notice.

Who do you think you're kidding?

[beyurslf]

29. I consider him a racist regardless of him not saying that, but yes that would make me think it

too.

[Warpy]

42. If he said that disqualified him from public office

that would be racist.

If he just pointed out the facts (Obama IS light skinned, he does have an educated Midwestern accent) as positives in antiquated language, he's just be exposing himself as tacky and clueless.

[Capers]

43. He is a racist.

He's probably one of the best known racists on the planet.

[damntexdem]

46. It would be much like all the other racist blather he produces.

We're all racists -- but unlike Rush, most of us have learned to try to fight it, not to glory in it.

[CreekDog]

47. yes, because I already do

one statement often doesn't make us think someone is racist, but combined with other statements and actions, it can be confirmed with one statement.