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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:11 PM
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Did you expect this?
Did some of us foresee the ratcheting up from the sublime to the ridiculous of the enabling media? With the president's approval ratings requiring artificial inflation to appear to be in the 30's, with 60% plus of American citizens firmly against keeping troops in Iraq any longer, with the Democrats chairing the key committees in the House and Senate, who'd have thought the media would actually become even less credible and even more propagandized?

As we've watched David Gregory spout RW talking points and dance with Karl Rove, as we've been subjected to Tom Delay (Tom Delay?!) making the talk show rounds and being treated as someone with gravitas, as we've watched the Speaker of the House be absolutely savaged by the talking heads for a successful diplomatic foray to Syria, as the RW pundits loudly spout impossibly ludicrous statements and claims, with no rebuttal, I've wondered how it is possible that the people's voice has been so subverted.

Sadly, it seems the only thing propping up this criminal regime is the compliant mass media. If truthful, objective and vetted reporting actually occurred, if people saw the truth about Iraq, Halliburton, Afghanistan, the utter lack of coherent foreign policy, the devaluing of the dollar, the steady loss of jobs, the blatant attempts to steal 2008, the continually building case for a stolen presidential election in 2004 and on and on, the cabal would collapse under the weight of the citizens' fury, as they demanded an end to this corruption.

I assumed that the media (except for the ever blatant FAUX) would continue to do its banal and heavy on the fluff reporting with sporadic bursts of cheerleading for Bush and friends, as they'd done prior to the Nov. 06 elections. I must confess to surprise that the network and cable news networks have since raised their voices in unity, loudly singing Rove's tune, rather than take the opportunity to be true journalists and start uncovering the many, many crimes of this cabal. After seeing the will of the people whom their sponsors court, they continue to sing louder and more off key.

Did the more astute among us see this coming?

Can we just stop watching? :shrug: MKJ

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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:21 PM
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1. I have, to all intents and purposes stopped watching MSM "news".
As far as predicting this continuation of fascist media control, I am somewhat surprised. I mistakenly thought that as the support of more and more people pulled away from W and his party-ilk, and moved more and more into the Democratic ranks, that the MSM would follow (maybe reluctantly) the crowd. But, alas, it ain't so...
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:21 PM
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2. Funny . . .
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:25 PM
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3. LOL, posted at almost exactly the same time. Two sides of same coin.
Where I'm getting aggravated about how much worse they've become, maxrandb is appreciating the utter demise of their credibility. :-) MKJ
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:26 PM
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4. I've been out shopping - what brought this on?
Sarcasm
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:28 PM
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5. :-)
Just one of those "I'm mad as hell, etc." things. MKJ
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:29 PM
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6. No, I wasn't expecting this. I truly thought that after Jan. the Sunday programs would start to
have the Democratic leaders of the House and Senate and various committees on, not Tom Delay!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:37 PM
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9. Funny you should mention that...
...have the Democratic leaders of the House and Senate and various committees on

I've listened to NPR twice to get information on the Gonzales hearing last Thursday. Both times, NPR had Repubs on, commenting on the hearing. No Dems. I thought, "Hey, the Dems WON last November. They are NOW the majority party. You can stop going to the Repubs for commentary!"

It's like NPR refuses to acknowledge the Repubs are the minority party...
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:29 PM
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7. well, i certainly expected nothing else
face it - faux is only the most egregious. They probably intentionally stay bad despite the criticism in order to convince the masses that the others are accurate. They are all mouthpieces for Big Brother.

All of the major media are owned by big business, and that means they are controlled by the multi-million-dollar bonus set for whom all this is being done.

Tom Hartman talked the other day about a book describing how when GE bought NBC Welch made no bones about turning it into a corporate mouthpiece. Censored criticism of any GE products, etc. That is WHY the big companies acquired the networks and cable "news" (ha!) outlets. They have advanced that agenda significantly of late.

PNAC wants world domination, pure and simple, and regardless of poll numbers they intend to barge full steam ahead toward their goal. I expect they have plans to "deal with" the prospect of a dem being elected president, as well as to take back both houses. If they can't pretend to accomplish it through "the system" (ie, make-believe elections) then they'll have to pull out all the stops and finish the coup by other means.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 08:26 AM
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21. Can you give us a link?
"Tom Hartman talked the other day about a book describing how when GE bought NBC Welch made no bones about turning it into a corporate mouthpiece. Censored criticism of any GE products, etc. "
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:37 PM
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8. Unfortunately we haven't begun to see ugly!
Think rats... trapped in the corner!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:38 PM
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10. Just one question
What is the big fucking deal about David Gregory dancing with Karl Rove? People seem to be really upset about it. I just dont get why.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:45 PM
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11. yeah that's bs
its what he says and does on the job we should care about. That was a social event and they were both on the stage fooling around. BFD.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:51 PM
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12. Combined with his recent RW shilling as a Hardball guest host, it was
a declaration by a seemingly credible WH press corps member that access trumps accuracy. MKJ
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:52 PM
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13. Are you serious?
You think him dancing on stage says that?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:53 PM
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14. Well, yes I am, thanks for asking.
:hi: MKJ
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 03:54 PM
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15. Did you even watch the dinner in which he danced?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 04:02 PM
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 04:04 PM
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17. So because I believe in being fair, you want to ignore me
IF you watched the dinner, the COMEDIANS chose who was to come up on stage. Gregory didnt volunteer, but was chosen.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 06:34 AM
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18. Incompetency is hard ...
to fake.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 06:44 AM
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19. Think about this... Despite all of the corporate enabling...
Dems won both houses of congress AND 60%+ support withdrawl from Iraq. I think that much of the rw shilling is now at the point of diminishing returns - and that more people listening/watching/reading take what is being said with huge grains of salt and many a rolling eye moments. I think that many americans have started to "see" the enabling media for what it is and are now running a mental filter based on what they see/hear/experience in their day to day lives - while throughout much of the bushjr era folks were still so shell-shocked by 911 (and frightened) that they put their real day lives experience in a form of suspended disbelief and used the enabling media words as the filter through which they saw the world. That seems no longer to be the case.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 06:51 AM
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20. The media will not change without impeachment hearings
that reveal that which is concealed. All the other hearings will just be politics because they know there will be no consequences and thus, in the minds of many people out there, just partisan politics.
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