Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What are the implications if Scott Brown wins the MA Senate seat next week?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:49 AM
Original message
What are the implications if Scott Brown wins the MA Senate seat next week?
I know a lot of people think that will never happen. I sincerely hope they're right, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Brown is portraying himself as an old style New England Republican. I don't believe he is one, but that's the persona he's trying to project, all the while winking at the wingnuts by doing such things as accepting the endorsements of tea party groups and MA Right to Life.

If Brown can win in MA, democrats and liberals/progressives are in deep shit. It portends a real disaster- and not just for dems.

Yesterday, Scott Brown raised 1.3 million dollars. That demonstrates just how fired up Repubs are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:58 AM
Response to Original message
1. He is not going to win. Which does not mean that Democrats in MA should feel overconfident,
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 09:00 AM by Mass
just that we have to stop doing handwringing.

Send her money, do some GOTV, be useful. This is exactly what the GOP is doing, from out of state. It seems the Democrats once again are unable to do that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. I hope you're right. I don't see looking at the possibility that you aren't
as handwringing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Yes, because this is what the right wants us to do. We need to act.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 09:04 AM by Mass
We need to get people to go to vote.

But saying (or hypothesing) that we are going to lose is not useful, particularly when we are not.

The point for them is to say it was a hard race, so that they can claim the Democrats are losing traction. It is not. It is a risky race only because it is a special election, not because the GOP is gaining traction in MA.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #1
9. We'll know better after 8pm next Tuesday, won't we?
Until then, assume nothing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Assume nothing, but stay positive. Help in any way you can.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 09:20 AM by Mass
Considering the possibility that Brown can win (particularly when it is unlikely) does not help.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
4. Utter Catastrophe.
Virtually impossible for Brown to win.

But ... if it happened, it would obviously be an eight on the Richter political earthquake scale.

The immediate collapse of the so-called "health care reform" effort would be the first crashing edifice.

It would be tremendously discouraging to progressives everywhere in the country.

The Coakley campaign better be working hard on turnout.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
5. I'm seeing more and more indie friends that I thought would never vote rep, starting to look at him
It's frightening. Coakley made a big mistake thinking she won the seat when she won the primary. She's got a week to get out there and fight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alc Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
6. Even if Brown looses
the exit polls could have health reform implications. If the exit polls say that getting rid of the 60 votes for reform was a primary factor in voting for him, there will be congressmen in less "deep blue" states who may change their minds. There are enough other compromises & changes in the bills since the initial house & senate votes that it will be easy to explain a changed vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. I doubt that if Brown loses there will be any loss of dem votes for the hc legislation
but if it's within a few points the MSM will make a huge deal over it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
7. I can't prove this but I'm sure his money is coming from out of state
I seriously doubt we are going to elect a Repub to fill Teddy's seat - it would be such a slap in the face to the Kennedy's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:12 AM
Response to Original message
10. 1.3 million, is that all?
This is the straw that is floating by for them. They will grasp at it with everything they can muster. In a way this may be an awakening for Democrats.. I don't believe the Republican will win but he will make a very good showing.
For Ted Kennedy's seat for God's sake. This is one of the most Liberal areas in the country..If Democrats don't start behaving as Democrats they may find they won't be in any position to behave period. I will not vote for a Republican, if Democrats act like Republicans I won't vote for them. It is basically quite simple, and I doubt very seriously I am the only person with this attitude.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC