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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:13 AM
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Harold Ford tells a whopper: "I am pro-choice -- have always been.."
Here is the full quote from today...the man is shameless.

"I am pro-choice -- have always been since I entered politics almost 15 years ago. My cumulative grade with NARAL during 10 years in Congress was right at 80 percent. Any assertions to the contrary are false," he wrote.


Dear Harold Ford, you don't get to have it both ways.

Video:

Harold Ford is NOT pro-choice. In his own words.

The video has a compilation of Ford saying "I am not pro-choice." He even implies he would use his seat to get abortion banned, that Congress would teach people the difference between right and wrong.

The words of NARAL:

NARAL Pro-Choice New York opposes the potential Senate candidacy of Harold Ford, Jr. and would like to make it perfectly clear to all voters that Harold Ford, Jr. is — unlike the overwhelming majority of New Yorkers — anti-choice.

The ongoing debate on healthcare reform has put in clear perspective how one legislator’s vote can have a dramatic impact on the lives of American women. New York State has not – and will not — provide that anti-choice vote. NARAL Pro-Choice New York — and more importantly, the voters of our state — will not stand for it.


Here is more from Ford's post today in of all places the New York Post.

I moved to New York more than three years ago, have been a New York resident for more than a year and am a registered voter in New York City. My wife and I both work in Manhattan, proudly call lower Manhattan home and plan to start and raise a family in New York.

I am pro-choice -- have always been since I entered politics almost 15 years ago. My cumulative grade with NARAL during 10 years in Congress was right at 80 percent. Any assertions to the contrary are false.

I remain committed to promoting gun safety and handgun control, and I look forward to working with Mayor Bloomberg and Newark Mayor Corey Booker and their coalition to reduce handgun violence in cities across America.

Despite what critics say about me, I enjoyed uninterrupted support from organized labor throughout my time in Congress.

And from the moment I arrived in Congress, I supported civil unions. Like New York's senior senator, after listening to and participating in the national conversation about full equality and fairness, I support same-sex marriage.

Read more: Ford gearing up for Senate race.


He is an opportunist more than most. His religion-based stances on women and gays have been well-known. He should be ashamed of now saying he is pro-choice and has always been. I would like to think New Yorkers are on to his spin.

Ford is thought to be considering a challenge to Kristen Gillebrand, who was appointed to the seat last year when Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State. But is New York ready for his brand of conserva-faithiness?

Take a look at this ad Ford ran in his 2006 Senate race. Filmed in a church, with a cross just over his shoulder (the same sort of imagery people howled about when Mike Huckabee used it in 2007), Ford testifies to church being where he learned "the difference between right and wrong." Funny, then, that he went on in that same ad to brag about how he voted "against amnesty for illegals." In another "faithy" vote, Ford, then serving in the House, was one of 47 Democrats who voted with the Tom DeLay-led Republicans in favor of federal government intervention to try to stop the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.


At Netroots Nation last year Ford and Markos debated. There was a difference, a big one, about the party's message.

Markos v Ford

The moderator was DFA's Arshad Hasan.

Arshad asked both candidates what should be done to build the party.

Ford focused on appealing to Republican voters, saying that Barack Obama would need to receive the support of people who voted for George W. Bush twice to win the presidency. Markos talked about fielding authentic candidates who represent real American, progressive values, because there are few in Washington, D.C. who truly have their ear to the ground and are listening to their constituents.


I am not sure what Ford is up to right now. And not sure why he would write an op ed for of all papers, the New York Post. But I am some ideas about it.

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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:16 AM
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1. I am so fucking sick and tired of politicians and their lies.
Honestly, at this moment, I would like to get rid of every single one of them and start over.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:07 AM
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26. A Southern Carpet Bagger?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:16 AM
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2. Scarborough's carbuncle.
that would be ole Harold.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:16 AM
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3. Typical DLCer. All things to all people. My values change according
to the constituency I am talking to at the moment.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:29 PM
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11. Yeah
Except at his core he is a fiscal republican. Pro war, pro big business, pro bank. No matter what he says he will run to his big money buddies.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:34 AM
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46. Those are the key ingrediients of the DLC platform
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:50 AM
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33. +1
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:19 AM
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4. what a difference a zip-code can make.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:24 AM
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5. heh heh
Ain't that the truth? :rofl:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:26 AM
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7. For real!
Let him run for Senate in Tennessee again, this time as a newly converted pro-choice and pro-marriage equality candidate. Let's see how far that gets him.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:35 PM
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12. No, no thank you.
We deserve better here, we really do.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:25 AM
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6. This man is a total political opportunist.
His recent about-faces on abortion and marriage equality are all about mounting a primary challenge to Gillibrand for her seat, nothing more.

Don't believe a thing this guy says, and keep him unemployed.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:26 PM
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9. Agreed
He should rot on the vine. There is no reason at all a shameless DLC opportunist should be given any time at all. Maybe if he fails enough he can pull a Norm Coleman and switch parties because he can't get in any other way.

That would net us one less unelectable, unwanted, conservadem, DLC pundit that drifts about spreading manure on the airwaves.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:37 AM
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8. Kicked and recommended.
This guy is a fucking moron of the highest order, when he says things like this that are disproven by his OWN FUCKING CAMPAIGN COMMERCIALS!
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:28 PM
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10. I'd still rather have him as Tennessee's senator than the imbeciles we do have.
:shrug:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:52 AM
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36. You want a senator who supports torture?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:05 PM
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39. I already have two.
At least I'd agree with Ford 85 percent of the time instead of never.

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:12 PM
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40. The only thing worse than a neocon is a neocon enabling DLCer.
Damn the DLC! :puke:
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:27 PM
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42. I think Republicans are worse.
I have two Republican worthless senators.

I'm not defending neocon enabling DLC types, but that was the only Democratic choice in the race. He'd still be better than Alexander or Corker.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:25 PM
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41. Tennessee Yes, NY, NO
I was all for Caroline Kennedy getting that senate seat last year, but no way should such a ridiculous DINO get to occupy NY's senate seat.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:39 PM
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13. NY Post is the last refuge of a scoundrel..
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 05:58 PM
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16. Very true.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:52 PM
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14. Cynical ploy to prop up Gilibrand
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 01:55 PM by PHIMG
This Queens, NY resident will actively campaign against the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate if either Gilibrand or the loser from Virginia wins the nomination.

New York must not accept another DLC carpetbagger. The state of New York endured DLC Hillary for far too long. Schumer is a sold out whore for Wall Street as well. New Yorkers want a Senator who shares our values. Not a puppet foisted upon us by the banksters of Wall Street.

My cynical view is that Ford's "flirtation" is to get the liberals of the party to rally around DLC Gilibrand to block Ford.

But no matter, unless a progressive candidate enters the primary, I'm voting third party. I can not support DLC "centrist" candidates after this healthcare fiasco.

Then again the elite have shown with Obama that they can sell us a progressive candidate, and bait and switch us by cutting the candidate's balls off in the "transition".

Leadsership used to mean that you redefine what is politically possible. Today it means how you can best take a dive to your opponents.

No on Gilibrand. No on Ford Jr.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:21 PM
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17. Could be possible.
The whole thing seems strange.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:01 AM
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24. I was hoping that Gilibrand had "gone rogue".
A couple of her votes surprised me and I
was hoping they were trying to run her out
because she wasn't being a team player.

Sorry to hear that the bait and switch is
the more likely scenario...



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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:28 AM
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28. +1
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:01 PM
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15. I don't want a slimy democrat. I don't trust Ford. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:38 PM
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18. I smell brimstone. Rahm's been around here.
Ford is JUST the kind of "Democrat" Rahm would like to stack the Senate with. You just fucken watch.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:55 PM
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19. "I moved to New York more than three years ago"
"have been a New York resident for more than a year"

These two things alone should disqualify him from contention. He's not from New York, and he's only lived there a short while. If someone moved to North Carolina from New York and said they wanted to run for the Senate, we'd laugh at them.

Ford's main qualification seems to be losing a race for the Senate in his actual home state. If he could not win the Senate seat for Tennessee Democrats, why the hell should New York Democrats nominate him? He ran as a fake Republican in Tennessee, and so the voters there selected a real one. Now he's running as a fake Democrat, and a fake New Yorker.

Good God, this is someone who failed the Tennessee bar exam. I mean, let's get real here, what kind of dumbass do you have to be to earn a J.D. and still fail the Tennessee bar exam?

There are nearly 20 million people in New York. Surely the Democratic Party of New York has someone, preferably someone already holding elected office in the state, who is actually from the state, who can do a better job against the Republicans than someone who was created solely by virtue of his family's status in Tennessee politics? Harold Ford should stick to what he knows: being on the teevee.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:24 AM
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20. Harold's "beliefs" are always dependent on what audience he is....
...speaking to.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:04 PM
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38. BINGO! n/t
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:39 AM
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21. Ford should stick to
TV blathering, being light skinned and having no Negro dialect and all those positives.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:43 AM
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22. Newsflash: New York isn't buying it...
either is the White House.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:43 AM
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23. what is it w/ NY and carpetbaggers?
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Gravel Democrat Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:02 AM
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25. Talking out of both sides of ones mouth can lead to weird facial expressions
Junior knows this already though



Next up: Clowns (real actual honest to goodness Clowns!)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:49 AM
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32. That's very funny picture.
:rofl:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:26 AM
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27. he comes from a long line of liars
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:34 AM
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29. forked tongue

spoon-fed lies
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:18 AM
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30. I was pro choice before I was against it?
A variation on a theme....
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:26 AM
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31. After years of bigoted religionist statements
he is also suddenly attempting to portray his dogmatic self as being in favor of equality. This is why when I hear about some candidate's 'faith' I instantly figure they are liars, because the faith shouters are not the faith holders and the shouters always lie.
And by the way, on the Teri Schaivo vote, Barack Obama also voted with the GOP. Also likes to get up in front of crowds and talk about his faith. Also opposes equal rights for all people and favors discrimination based on his personal religious dogmas.

I have had it with those who lie so often and so blatantly who also carry the pretense of faith and judgement of others. Liars and bigots are just liars and bigots, not mitigated by being in politics, nor by the cross. Just men who lie and hold prejudice of their own volition.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:53 AM
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34. I Realize this straight-faced lying has become expected from politicians
but there really is something deeply wrong with people who do this... really, really wrong in the head.
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zimmie Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:46 AM
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35. Go Back to Tennessee, Harold
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:02 PM
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37. God damn it! Fuck you Harold Ford you fucking piece of shit!
This is what we get in this country. This motherfucker will become the senator of New York because this is how it works and this is what we get - liars and scoundrels.

And we let it happen EVERY FUCKING TIME!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:38 PM
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43. harold was a big supporter of the bu$h* invasion of iraq...has he changed this history too?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:23 AM
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44. He doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell....we are aware of his record.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:33 AM
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45. You are wasting your time . . .
. . . even though this is the "carpetbagger seat" (Bobby, Hillary). Ford has no constituency in NY. Gillibrand would beat him upstate and in the City by a wide margin. Either he doesn't run or he runs and loses badly.

I smell Bloomberg here because Rattner is Bloomberg's buddy from when Rattner was at Lazard - he handling some or all of the Mayor's assets. I have a hard time seeing Ford's run as engineered by anyone else.



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