Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Posted On The Occasion Of The Appearance Of John Yoo On The Daily Show

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:56 AM
Original message
Posted On The Occasion Of The Appearance Of John Yoo On The Daily Show


SPENCER TRACY as CHIEF JUDGE DAN HAYWOOD in Judgment At Nuremberg (1961): "You were speaking of crimes against humanity... saying that the defendants were not responsible for their acts.

I'd like you to explain that to me."

JUDGE CURTISS IVES: "I've just been explaining it."

JUDGE HAYWOOD: "Maybe.

But all I've heard is a lot of legalistic double-talk and rationalization.

You know, Curtiss, when I first became a judge... I knew there were certain people in town I wasn't supposed to touch. I knew that if I was to remain a judge, this was so. But how in God's name do you expect me to look the other way... at the murder of six million people?"

JUDGE KENNETH NORRIS: "I'm sure he didn't mean that."

JUGE IVES: "I'm not asking you to look the other way at them. I'm asking you, what good is it going to do
to pursue this policy?"

JUDGE HAYWOOD: "Curtiss, you were saying that the men are not responsible for their acts.

You're going to have to explain that to me.

You're going to have to explain it
very carefully."

...

JUDGE HAYWOOD: "The tribunal is now in session.

God bless the United States of America and this honorable tribunal.

The trial conducted before this tribunal began over eight months ago.

The record of evidence is more than 10,000 pages long... and final arguments of counsel have been concluded.

Simple murders and atrocities do not constitute... the gravamen of the charges in this indictment.

Rather, the charge is that of conscious participation
in a nationwide, government-organized system... of cruelty and injustice...
in violation of every moral and legal principle known to all civilized nations.

The tribunal has carefully studied the record and found therein abundant evidence to support... beyond a reasonable doubt...
the charges against these defendants.

Herr Rolfe... in his very skillful defense...
has asserted that there are others who must share the ultimate responsibility for what happened here in Germany.

There is truth in this.

The real complaining party at the bar in this courtroom...
is civilization.

But the tribunal does say that the men in the dock are responsible for their actions.

Men who sat in black robes in judgment on other men.

Men who took part in the enactment of laws and decrees the purpose of which was the extermination of human beings.

Men who, in executive positions actively participated in the enforcement of these laws illegal even under German law.

The principle of criminal law in every civilized society...

has this in common:

Any person
who sways another
to commit murder...

any person who furnishes...

the lethal weapon for the purpose of the crime...

any person who is an accessory to the crime...

is guilty.

Herr Rolfe further asserts that the defendant Janning was an extraordinary jurist and acted in what he thought
was the best interest of his country.

There is truth in this also.

Janning, to be sure is a tragic figure. We believe he loathed the evil he did.

But compassion for the present torture of his soul must not beget forgetfulness of the torture and the death of millions by the government of which he was a part.

Janning's record and his fate illuminate the most shattering truth that has emerged from this trial.

If he and all of the other defendants had been degraded perverts...

If all of the leaders of the Third Reich had been sadistic monsters and maniacs then these events would have no more moral significance than an earthquake, or any other natural catastrophe.
But this trial has shown that under a national crisis ordinary, even able and extraordinary men, can delude themselves into the commission of crimes, so vast and heinous that they beggar the imagination.

No one who has sat through the trial can ever forget them.

Men sterilized because of political belief.
A mockery made of friendship and faith.
The murder of children.

How easily it can happen.

There are those in our own country, too, who today speak of the protection of country, of survival.

A decision must be made in the life of every nation...

At the very moment
when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat.

Then it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy...
to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way.


Only, the answer to that is: Survival as what?

A country isn't a rock.

It's not an extension of one's self.

It's what it stands for.

It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult.


Before the people of the world,

let it now be noted,

that here in our decision,

this is what we stand for:


Justice.


Truth.


And the value of a single human being."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:11 PM
Response to Original message
1. K&R
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 12:16 PM by Solly Mack
It's on now, right this minute, here where I live.

He came out smiling and I am sick at my stomach already.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:13 PM
Response to Original message
2. let us never forget.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
3. I just watched the entire episode at ThheDailyShow.com
What a jerk that Yoo is! He's almost worse than Gonzo!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
4. Thank you. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
5. Thanks for the post--I imagine Yoo would listen blankly to this excerpt
not understanding a word of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:26 PM
Response to Original message
6. K&R.
Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC