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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:11 PM Original message |
RS Exclusive: Obama received $20 million from the healthcare industry |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Now that's some serious change ... you can believe in. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. how many of the health professionals who donated to him supported |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. how many of them supported what he was actually running on - NO mandates, public option, etc.? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. The shit has just hit the fan |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Hello? this is about job industries people who donated work for. Here I'll break it down for you |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Bingo: these are contributions from PEOPLE, not organizations. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Not entirely true... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Yes. Not all health care professionals are equal |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
75. Not to mention Heath insurance employees who were "encouraged" to donate |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
91. Bingo! (n/t) |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. These are totals from individual contributions |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
79. Dude, this is an aggregate of individual donations |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. the vast, overwhelming majority of that money came from health care professionals NOT insurance |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, in other words, he got more contributions from individuals who work in health care |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. but that doesn't make a thread title that feeds into the Left's ever-ready circular firing squad |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. +1...nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. As I just noted above it would be important to know which doctors, nurses, etc... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Nice, distorted title for this story, |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. In OP'ers defense, he just used Rawstory's title. But you are correct about many DU'ers not |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. $7 million OK with you? and the $13 million remainder is |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. So a nurse can't donate to Obama? |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. $20 from a nurse vs, $1,500 from an exec? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. "mostly hogs at the trough"; document or retract. n/t |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. Read the whole story.... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. He raised a hell of a lot more than $150M over the course of the campaign. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Thanks -- I did a quick Google search |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
74. Thanks for that. So that means that out of $660 million in donations, only $700K |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Thanks for reporting the facts. OP didn't even read the article, obviously. nt |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
88. You're correct. The donations came from people... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. First of all, Obama outraised McCain 2:1 overall. |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. Explain a few things? People in helping professions supporting a Dem? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. Last time I saw my doctor, he said that he supported |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. wow... look at the DLC spinners twirling around on this one |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. spinning like tops, as always |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. What's sad is seeing desperate hate |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Just out of curiosity, am I a "DLC Spinner" for pointing out this refers to individuals donating |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Yes, stock up on Dramamine. nt |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Care to address the substance of the criticisms of the OP instead of just name calling? n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. That's OK, the anti-Obama DUers are spinning, too, and |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Don't you realize that some are tasked to DU to "shape the message" amongst the grassroots? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. No, we just know how to read. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. too bad you can't see the OP is full of FAIL... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. So what's the big deal here? |
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Don Caballero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. OMG! So what!! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. How is linking to a an article on campaign donations hatred? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. because it's got someone downthread calling it treason. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. Not this shit again |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. Rawfaildoglake!1! eom |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. Deleted sub-thread |
SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. And Rawstory grows more irrelevant with each passing day... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Rawstory frequently uses misleading headlines for their |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. A long time ago they used to put up a headline, mark it "developing", and make you wait. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes. They count on the majority to read only the headline |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. More than half came from individuals. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. So you're saying doctors, nurses, pharmacists, nurses aids can't donate to Dems? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
36. Interesting contributions while running for Senate via OpenSecrets.org |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Education $603,335. Why not highlight that one? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Oh yes, I forgot about Charter Schools, sorry... but interesting no comment on what |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Oh, you have the breakdown of which educators were in charter schools vs. public? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No breakdown, but he has been an advocate for Charter Schools since he was in the State Senate...and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
82. Obama is, btw, pushing CHARTER SCHOOLS...... disgusting -- !!! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. So Obama received a total of 55k from Insurance PACs? That's less than 0.01 percent of contributions |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. He also received close to $1.5 million from investment firms, $328,000 from banking, |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Not from firms, from individual donors. From Investment PACs he received 68k. Again |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. i dig your sig pic... ain't it the truth... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Got it from JeffR. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. From "individuals" who just happen to be connected to investment firms--!!! |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
87. Did you ever hear of bundled contributions? |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
40. My question would be at what point in the campaign, because that would make a difference in how |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
49. This articles uses the classic Nader trick of confusing employee and employer contributions. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Bingo! And, yet, the Obama haters run with it, as they run with |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. How Faux Newsish. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
83. What nonsense . . . how many individuals even at DU give more than $200??? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I suggest you find out before you make an accusation like that. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I think the "prejudice" is on the other foot -- 1% of our population is elite . . . |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #83 |
93. I gave $700...you can add that to the Telecomunications Industry Pool |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
57. Deleted message |
fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. Well, there Ya Go! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
66. DLC's are spinning faster than a figure skater on this! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Right . . . the story goes that our politicians aren't taking corporate money . . . |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. Well that is a really simplistic view of things. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Take the doctors and nurses out -- and ALL you have is corporate bribery . . . |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. So then because 5 million dollars, or less than 1% of his total money raised came from industry... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Hey, don't talk him down. The meltdown is just too delicious to watch. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Corporatism/fascism is now "meaningless" . . . let's get some real figures on all of this -- |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
72. Faux News would be proud of this reporting |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. well, if they were accurate and put in "doctors and nurses who work for" right before |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. great OP! and, Obama's #2 donor was Goldman Sachs: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Health Care Industry and Wall Street . . . and we expect to have leverage over Obama?? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
81. We need PUBLIC FINANCING OF ELECTIONS. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. +1000% -- Supreme Court will side with corporations buying government ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-12-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. Also, keep in mind 80% of the money raised goes to MSM for ads . . . |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
92. WTF-Only 40 recs?! Yep, the denial is out of control! |
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