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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:50 PM
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America's War Criminals - Where are they now?
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 07:53 PM by Solly Mack
I know George W. Bush is mostly hiding out in Texas, giving speeches, getting that sham of a library ready... and still catapulting the propaganda - BushTV coming to PBS.

I know Richard Cheney periodically pops up to say something outrageous in the press...as can be expected from a war criminal who isn't in prison.


Donald Rumsfeld just bought a ranch in Montana

I know David Addington can't seem to find work. (Not sure I believe that though)

I know Condoleezza Rice and Stephen Hadley have joined forces and started a consulting firm. More - Rice, Hadley Form Firm to Help U.S. Companies Invest Abroad...More
Condoleezza Rice has joined the board of directors for a new energy company hoping to take advantage of possible cap-and-trade legislation....and More...Siebel's Stealth Carbon Startup C3 Lands $26 Million And Condoleezza Rice On Its Board...and that Hadley has joined the http://www.usip.org/">United States Institute of Peace - started and funded by Congress tax-payers.

I know John Ashcroft has started a law group and gives speeches.

Stephen Cambone got a job with QinetiQ North America. More... Top Rumsfeld Aide Gets Cushy Contract From Spy Agency He Created

Colin Powell gives speeches and is a "strategic limited partner" with Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, a venture capital firm.


I know General Richard Myers has written a book. (as have many of America's war criminals)

George Tenet has joined http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2006/oct/24/usnews.money">QinetiQ as a "non-executive director" and Former CIA Director George Tenet Joins Guidance Software Board of Directors - "the world leader in computer investigations"

Porter Goss was keeping a low profile....but seems to have come out of his shell.

Michael Chertoff has joined a law firm.

Alberto Gonzales is now a professor at Texas Tech University.

Doug Feith is at Georgetown University and a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution. (several, to include Rice and Rumsfeld, are also at the Hoover Institute]

John Yoo is a professor of law. (ain't that a hoot?)

Jay Bybee is a judge. (also a hoot)



There are others, of course. Many others. I know I haven't named them all. It is not a case of forgetting who they are - for I will never forget.


I don't know where all of America's war criminals are now... but I know where they are not.





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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 07:58 PM
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1. Thanks Solly Mack! n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:04 PM
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2. Hi, slipslidingaway
& Thank you
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:17 PM
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5. You're welcome - C3: Siebel, Condoleezza Rice, and Close to $26M
just looking at this a little more.

Thanks for not forgetting :)

http://earth2tech.com/2009/12/30/c3-siebel-condoleezza-rice-and-close-to-26m/

"...But at the end of the day, if the company is working on enterprise software for carbon management, I really want to know what makes its idea so compelling as to recruit so many high profile execs and board members. There are already over 22 different carbon management firms, including Hara, which has its own high-profile backers with political connections.

Oracle itself and SAP have also moved into the carbon management space. Carbon management software isn’t really about innovative technology at this point — it’s about getting big, getting customers and getting ready for the U.S. Congress to pass a climate bill with a cap and trade system in it. The climate bill is looking more and more difficult to pass as of late, but the carbon management market is still really large (with international carbon markets and voluntary compliance) and will only grow larger over the coming years."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:18 PM
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6. Yep...that's a story all by itself.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:23 PM
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8. Yes, it sure will be. n/t
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:15 PM
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3. Forgot a couple,
Lyndon Johnson died in January 1973 and Robert McNamara died in July 2009. Both unindicted and untired for their war crimes.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:17 PM
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4. I didn't add Kissinger either
but that doesn't mean I forgot about him
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:22 PM
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7. Thanks for putting that together
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:22 PM by arcadian
K&R!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:28 PM
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9. You're welcome
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:30 PM
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10. dig it!
great little post there Solly Mack!

as they say, there is no peace, without justice.
They obviously hope to survive their crimes as Kissinger has. Though, I believe there have been countries he hasn't been able to travel to, because of war crimes charges.

I know there are many tenacious people who will continue to pursue the Bush admin. outlaws.
I truly hope they find themselves in a court somewhere, under oath, in public.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:32 PM
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12. That is my hope.
Thanks, G_j.


I applaud the tenacious.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:32 PM
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11. Robert Gates is in Obama's administration.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:40 PM
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14. and Kappes still works for the CIA
and his role in the extraordinary rendition by the CIA (and torture in Egypt) of Abu Omar needs to be investigated.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:38 PM
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13. K&R. Petraeus and McChrystal are still in uniformed leadership.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:44 PM
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15. Yes...and other Generals need to be investigated (Miller, Abizaid, Sanchez)
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 08:45 PM by Solly Mack
and not just them...
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:49 PM
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16. This is sickening
And poke around that "United States Institute of Peace," where apparently Hadley will help in "using media to prevent conflict."

Yeah, riiiiiiight........ Just one more 'consultant' to help the Ruling Class maintain the conditions that prevent the uprising of the peons.

:puke:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:50 PM
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17. Yeah..I about choked when I read that. And WE pay for him
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:57 PM
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18. William J. Haynes ( DOD/ torture memos) went to work for Chevron
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:19 PM
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19. Michael Mukasey making the rounds
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:28 PM
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20. Susan Ralston looks like a busy bee
Some background on her key role when she was in the White House:http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/Abramoff_said_he_had_agreement_with_1117.html

The last paragraph from that shows her new job:
In 2006, Abramoff plead guilty to several counts of bribing political officials and defrauding his American Indian tribal clients. That same year, Ralston – who resigned from her White House post in 2005 – started a lobbying firm called SBR Enterprises, LLC. SBR Enterprises is registered in Virginia.


Looks like she's still connecting key RW'ers to each other and promoting PNAC ideas:
http://events.linkedin.com/Foreign-Policy-Initiative-Advancing/pub/123634

Organizer:
Susan Ralston
President at SBR Enterprises LLC
Washington D.C. Metro Area

The Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI) invites you to the 2009 FPI Forum on September 21 and 22, to discuss how the United States and its allies can advance and defend democracy around the world.
In advance of the UN General Assembly and G20 meetings, and with the Obama administration facing critical decisions regarding the war in Afghanistan, the FPI Forum will offer a unique opportunity to reflect on recent developments and to examine the direction of American foreign policy under the leadership of President Obama. The conference will also discuss the role of human rights and democracy in American foreign policy. The 2009 FPI Forum will feature addresses from leading political figures and discussions with American and international policy experts and dissidents.
FPI is a non-profit, non-partisan organization, intending to qualify as a tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. FPI seeks to promote an active U.S. foreign policy committed to robust support for democratic allies, human rights, a strong American military equipped to meet the challenges of the 21st century, and strengthening America's global economic competitiveness. The organization is led by Executive Director Jamie Fly and a Board of Directors composed of Robert Kagan, William Kristol, and Dan Senor.


Thanks for this thread Solly.

Good to check in on what they're up to.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:49 PM
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22. Thank you, suffragette
Mary Matalin is another "Special Assistant" that needs to be investigated.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:46 PM
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21. John Rizzo former CIA legal counsel/torture memos - left summer of 2009
No idea what he is doing since he left last year.

Anyone?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 09:53 PM
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23. Steven G. Bradbury is an attorney at the Washington, D.C office of Dechert LLP
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:16 PM
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25. Found this on Rizzo
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/12/a-man-who-knows-the-secrets-veteran-cia-lawyer-seeks-book-deal.aspx


Posted Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:21 PM
A Man Who Knows The Secrets: Veteran CIA Lawyer Seeks Book Deal
Mark Hosenball

A biographer once labeled the late CIA director Richard Helms "The Man Who Kept the Secrets." Now a veteran CIA lawyer who knows many, many secrets, and was deeply involved in controversies surrounding George W. Bush's "enhanced interrogation" policies, is shopping an autobiographical book proposal.

John A. Rizzo, who joined the CIA in 1976 and retired late last year as the agency's acting general counsel, has held preliminary discussions with William Morris, the large talent and literary agency, Declassified has learned. Last month, Rizzo sent Morris an 18-page book proposal, although he has not signed a representation agreement with Morris or another agent. According to a source familiar with Rizzo's literary aspirations, who asked for anonymity when discussing a document which is still not public, the proposal covers Rizzo's 34 years of service with the spy agency, starting with investigations by Congress and the Ford-era Rockefeller Commission examination of historical CIA plots (such as the agency's various schemes to kill or discredit Cuba's Fidel Castro), covering Rizzo's many years as legal adviser to the agency's Directorate of Operations (also known colloquially as the department of undercover spying) and ending with Barack Obama's first year in office.

The person familiar with Rizzo's literary endeavor says that his memoir would be "honeycombed with vignettes" from his decades of service as a senior CIA lawyer, as well as anecdotes about his dealings both with agency directors ranging from George H.W. Bush to George Tenet. Historical topics Rizzo plans to write about will include Iran-Contra investigations in the 1980s, controversies in the 1990s over the CIA's use of "dirty assets" in Central America and elsewhere, and the George W. Bush administration's counterterrorism interrogation practices.


Rizzo also plans to write about the political controversy which erupted when W's administration nominated him to become the agency's permanent general counsel—a nomination which stalled, and ultimately died, after Rizzo refused to denounce Bush interrogation policies as "torture" during a confirmation hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee.

more at link

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:17 PM
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26. Thank you!!!!
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 10:19 PM by Solly Mack
Should have guessed he was writing a book. Figures.

I was a poor put-upon CIA lawyer. It wasn't my fault. I didn't do it. Besides, it needed to be done. We were right!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:26 PM
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28. That's all I could find on a quick search
Think you probably nailed the synopsis of his book.

The harder search would be on Matalin, I think. There's so much out there on her public persona that it would be harder to dig down to what she's doing out of the spotlight.
And like Ralston, it's probably plenty.
I only spent a few minutes searching on Ralston and came up with that. Might have to keep our eyes out for more.

Now you have me wondering about Roger Stone.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:24 PM
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31. off getting another tattoo?
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:31 PM
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32. Eeks, maybe Cheney to go along with Nixon
:scared:

Still think he was behind Rather and Spitzer smears.

He's a nasty one.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:12 PM
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24. frickin' k and frackin' r
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:21 PM
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27. Most others are comfortably ensconced in their Lazy Boys watching Fox TV
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 10:23 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
If they are not personally mis-communicating for bucks to the Dumbf!@K Chamber of Commerce.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:37 PM
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29. K&R....n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:48 PM
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30. Diane Beaver, former JAG, torture advocate now works within the DOD proper
as Deputy General Counsel for International Affairs, Department of Defense.


REALLY good site, btw, for information on America's war criminals.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:19 AM
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33. I want the names of the rank-and-file torturers, too.
There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of US military, spooks, and mercs who were involved. I want to know if one of those sadistic psychopaths is now posing as Officer Friendly down at the local PD.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:54 AM
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35. Embedded torturers, I think you are on to something
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:53 PM
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70. and the names of all the doctors/psychologists too
I don't excuse the CIA agents at all ("good faith" my ass) or those in the military that engaged in war crimes.



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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:56 AM
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34. K&R. nt
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:26 AM
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36. Crime pays
:banghead:
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Prospero1 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:43 AM
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37. Lets not forget....
Wolfowitz and if you want to go way back: "Bomber" Harris (UK) and Curtis Lemay. (Intentionally killed many hundreds of thousands of civilians - the biggest "terror" bombers ever)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:43 PM
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69. Yes..comb licker and the rest of WHIG need to be on the list
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:56 AM
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74. Why not add Ira Eaker and Jimmy Doolittle
Doolittle commanded the 8th AF during the Dresden Raid. How about General Harold Arnold. He was their boss. He approved their tactics.
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Prospero1 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:37 AM
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77. Sadly, WW II illustrates the danger.....
of adopting the tactics of your enemies. Guernica was an atrocity, Warsaw was an atrocity, Rotterdam was an atrocity but somehow the (much more devastating) bombing of Dresden, Tokyo, and many other cities was just "our boys doing their jobs". More recently we've seen this moral disintegration at Guantanamo and Abu Gahrib.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:49 PM
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78. WWII illustrates the concept of total war
FDR approved of the tactics of Doolittle and LeMay. The objective was to destroy the perpertrators of Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, Stalingrad and Nanking. Does this make him a war criminal.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 11:45 AM
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38. and some have been appointed by Obama to continue the illegal wars
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 12:50 PM
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39. John Negroponte
Was not surprised to see him the other day on TeeVee the other day about the Christmas bomber.

Anywhoo, I found this by Walter Pincus:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/29/AR2009122902897.html


The Kuwaiti firm indicted last month for allegedly overcharging the Army on a multibillion-dollar contract to supply food to U.S. troops in Iraq, Kuwait and Jordan has announced it is negotiating with the Justice Department to settle the case.

Public Warehousing Co. made the announcement in a statement posted Monday on the Kuwait Stock Exchange Web site and added: "No deal has been struck so far and there are no guarantees that the negotiations will result in a settlement."

Last month, Public Warehousing -- which is in the process of changing its name to Agility -- was indicted in Atlanta for allegedly submitting inflated bills and false claims for food and other products supplied to the U.S. military over the past six years in contracts worth $8.5 billion. The company has denied the charges.


(snip)

In September 2008, the company hired retired Army Lt. Gen. Joseph M. Cosumano Jr. as president of its Taos Industries subsidiary. In July, the company announced that former U.S. ambassador John D. Negroponte had joined the board of directors of its Defense and Government Services group.

Negroponte, now vice chairman of McLarty Associates in Washington, said then in a statement that he could "provide useful insights and perspectives to the leadership of Agility as it guides the company to new levels of achievement."


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McLarty Associates?

http://www.maglobal.com/index.php?q=node/2

used to be Kissinger McLarty Associates.



Chair of Americas Society and lecturer at Yale.

http://www.as-coa.org/article.php?id=1922

John Negroponte to Chair Americas Society and Council of the Americas

That is all I had time to look at.



Looks like most of 'em making money hand over fist in the most nebulous, mirky ways.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:17 PM
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55. Thank you!
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:54 PM
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40. Wolfowitz needs an add
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:16 PM
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41. Traitors whose freedom taints the pride and soul of a nation.
When the rule of law can not be seen through to accountability for a nation's corrupted leadership, the country experiences further scarring. How can we see ourselves as the 'good guys' when wage wars half a world away at will and let the architects of that circumstance slither away quietly.

Where is the justice we're supposed to find traveling hand in hand with the truth?

rec'd for the duty of running all that info down, tyvm.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:22 PM
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42. Recommended. They now are walking slaps in the faces of those
of us that support the rule of law.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:42 PM
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67. Well said - they are walking slaps in the face
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:25 PM
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43. K&R. //nt
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:30 PM
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44. The important thing is that last line: "where they are not"
...and until they ARE where they are not now, there will be a stain upon this nation. :mad: :mad:

I will do all I can to put them where they are not, where they belong.

Bookmarking this thread. Keep us posted, Solly Mack
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:33 PM
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61. That's the part that sickens me most
What it says about us as a nation that these people are still free...and I know the Bush administration didn't produce the first war criminals of government....but as a nation, we have another chance (sadly) to do the right thing this time around....or we'll keep having this moment over and over again....a lost chance to do the right thing. Giving government criminals a free pass has become such a habit in America that it makes all our words of democracy, rule of law & no one is above the law nothing but a feel-good illusion.


They also couldn't run around America making money from the very crimes & abuses they engaged in while in office, or having the chance to affect government (advice,lobbying, policy driven "think-tanks") if they were in prison where they belong.


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:06 PM
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45. K&R
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:19 PM
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46. Thanks for updating us......
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:31 PM
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47. ECELLENT work, and thank you for this!!
K&R

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:40 PM
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66. Thank you, SB. There are more that need to be added.
No matter how many are added, the fact remains that they are still free... :(
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:37 AM
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75. the worst part of it all is that
the general public could care less, or for the most part wouldn't recognize 90% of these names let alone what they've done.

it's that fact which allows these criminals to remain free.

again, thank you for the compilation. it's much appreciated.

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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:36 PM
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48. Thank you Solly Mack
:kick: & R
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:38 PM
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49. BUT.. are any of them traveling vry broadly internationally, where they COULD be arrested? n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:38 PM
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65. Kissinger is limited in his travel....Rumsfeld can't travel to France, IIRC
He has a warrant there I believe. There was a news story about him having to leave France in a hurry because of a possible warrant being handed down.

The majority are not hindered in travel.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:38 PM
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50. Fox Entertainment, making paid speeches, working the levers of power still,
and generally yukking it up and making a mockery of the basic concept of justice.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:35 PM
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63. Most definitely
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:44 PM
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51. drinking martini's on someone's yacht?..just guessing..laughing at us??
hell Kissinger has been laughing at us for most of my adult life..and he still gets called in by even Dem presidents!

(I have been posting this since last spring..in case you missed it..)


Shortly after taking office..Obama asked Henry Kissinger..knick name.."The Butcher of Cambodia"..to represent his administration in Talks with Russia..

lets look as some serious connections here of Geithner , Kissinger and Obama...shall we..( edit to add: much of this i have posted many times in the past.)


TIMOTHY GEITHNER

Biography

Early life and education
Geithner was born in Brooklyn, New York.<2> He spent most of his childhood living outside the United States, including present-day Zimbabwe, Zambia, India and Thailand, where he completed high school at International School Bangkok.<3> He then attended Dartmouth College, graduating with a B.A. in government and Asian studies in 1983.<4> He earned an M.A. in international economics and East Asian studies from Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in 1985.<4><5> He has studied Chinese<4> and Japanese.<6>

Geithner's paternal grandfather, Paul Herman Geithner (1902–1972), emigrated with his parents from the German town of Zeulenroda to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1908.<7> His father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York.

During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once.<8>

Timothy Geithner's mother, Deborah Moore Geithner, is a pianist and piano teacher in Larchmont, New York where his parents currently reside. Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

Early career

After completing his studies,

Geithner worked for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., for three years and then joined the International Affairs division of the U.S. Treasury Department in 1988.

He went on to serve as an attaché at the US Embassy in Tokyo. He was deputy assistant secretary for international monetary and financial policy (1995–1996), senior deputy assistant secretary for international affairs (1996-1997), assistant secretary for international affairs (1997–1998).<5>

He was Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs (1998–2001) under Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.<5> Summers was his mentor,<10><11> but other sources call him a Rubin protégé.<11><12><13>



In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department.<14> He was director of the Policy Development and Review Department (2001-2003) at the International Monetary Fund.<5>


In October 2003, he was named president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.<15> His salary in 2007 was $398,200.<16> Once at the New York Fed, he became Vice Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee component. In 2006, he also became a member of the Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.<17>


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Timmy's dad :


Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s,

Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by

S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro,

President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once



Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

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now this should alarm every true democrat on these boards!!!!!!!


and From an April post of mine here at DU: and please, don't believe me ...click the link..it was in the CFR publication!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy

Published February 8, 2009




Speaker: James L. Jones


U.S. National Security Adviser Jones ( edit to add: new advisor hired by Obama!!!!) gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on

February 8, 2009.





"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.




Source: http://www.cfr.org/publication/18515/remar ... ...

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Report: AIG bailout money behind banks' recent profitability

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009 /...

snip:
The financial blog Zero Hedge has posted an "exclusive" that claims that according to an insider's account, AIG (yes, that AIG) "was responsible for the banks' January and February profitability."


Saying it is "rarely speechless," ZH offered "a moment of silence for the phenomenal scam that continues unabated in the financial markets, and now has the full oversight and blessing of the U.S. government, which in turns keeps on duping U.S. taxpayers into believing everything is good."


ZH says the insider perspective came in an email from "a correlation desk trader." Unless you're a finance whiz (and who is these days?!) you might get lost in the explanation of how AIG supposedly engineered this feat of profitability. But ZH tries to explain the "mumbo jumbo" in "layman's terms":


AIG, knowing it would need to ask for much more capital from the Treasury imminently, decided to throw in the towel, and gifted major bank counter-parties with trades which were egregiously profitable to the banks, and even more egregiously money losing to the U.S. taxpayers, who had to dump more and more cash into AIG, without having the U.S. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner disclose the real extent of this, for lack of a better word, fraudulent scam.


In simple terms think of it as an auto dealer, which knows that U.S. taxpayers will provide for an infinite amount of money to fund its ongoing sales of horrendous vehicles (think Pontiac Azteks): the company decides to sell all the cars currently in contract, to lessors at far below the amortized market value, thereby generating huge profits for these lessors, as these turn around and sell the cars at a major profit, funded exclusively by U.S. taxpayers (readers should feel free to provide more gripping allegories).



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:19 PM
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57. I think I was on a thread about Kissinger going to Russia
Thank you for adding the info.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:59 PM
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72. Thank you Solly Mack for a great thread!! eom
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:45 PM
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:06 PM
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53. Bush Family did Big Business with each of those Dictators.
Doesn't matter what part of the spectrum they occupy, to the BFEE, as long as they've got a jack boot on the People, they're OK to do business with.

Learn more:

Know your BFEE: Olympic Games Show Who’s Best Friends Forever with Authoritarians and Dictators

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War

Know your BFEE: Merchants of Death

Know your BFEE: Forget Rev. Wright! It’s Bush and His Cronies Who Owe an Apology for Rev. Moon!

A bonus...

Know your BFEE: Bush and bin Laden Clans Together in Bed

FYI: The person writing the OP is from a military family and has made great personal sacrifices over the past 9 years.

BTW: Enjoy your short stay.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:20 PM
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58. Thank you, Octafish - for everything :)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:09 PM
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54. Chertoff: The Airport Scanner Scam
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 05:13 PM by Octafish
From your keypad, Solly Mack, to a Grand Jury.

Thank you for an outstanding post. KR&B.

Here's a bit on Chertoff, former director of Homeland Security yayas:

The Airport Scanner Scam

Who'd ever thought that guy'd get into the Terror Industry, selling full-body airport scanners?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:21 PM
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59. Yes!!! Thank you for adding that
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:57 PM
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71. I heard on our news here in Fla last week that a huge order for the scanners has just come into a
Tampa corp by the US GOV. for scanners, sorry i didn't remember the $ details or the number ordered..but the corp here is one of a few that make them. But i remember it was a large $$$ number.

Remember Tampa is headquarters for CENTCOM.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:19 PM
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56. Thanks for the info
I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly.
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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:30 PM
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60. Every time I read a blog
similar to this I can't help coming to the conclusion that the American government is a full blown criminal organization. All of these known criminals, and with plenty of evidence against them, running around free and thumbing their noses at the legal system boggles the mind unless one accepts that the entire system from the bottom up has to be entirely corrupt. This goes for previous administrations as well. The obvious question which I suppose has been asked many times in the past, is how is needed change to come about ? Or will the people wait until new criminals take their places and these current ones fade from memory as has happened so many times in the past ?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:34 PM
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62. The fading from memory route is the path most traveled thus far
:(
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:36 PM
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64. Thanks for posting this info (nt)
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GreenMetalFlake Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:43 PM
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68. k/r
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:49 AM
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73. And we know where the accessories after the fact are too
Helping them avoid prosecution by executive fiat.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:57 AM
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76. That is how you divvy up the loot
And attract new recruts...The Mafia learned that long ago.
You never just give people a bunch of cash, that would just be stupid.
But you just appoint them to something, or give them some boards to sit on where they then pay you for your "services"
And this applies from top to bottom....even the lowest operative is rewarded in one way or the other.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:47 PM
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79. You're very good at keeping up with these folks Solly Mack. I tip my hat to ya!
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 02:47 PM by Independent_Liberal
This is very comprehensive. They must be watched carefully at ever turn. Where they show up to speak, there will always be a group there to protest.

It's getting harder and harder and harder for them to travel to any country outside the U.S. We must keep backing them into a corner until they have nowhere left to hide.

Thanks and keep hope alive my friend!

I_L
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