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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:37 AM Original message |
Robert Reich: Will Health Care Reform Be Paid For By The Rich or the Middle Class? |
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BP2 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sadly, as it stands today, it seems like everyone's a loser with Senate plan. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. With the Senate the way it is, LBJ couldn't get Medicare passed if he had to do it again. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. LBJ only needed 51 votes. And so does Obama if he wanted to force Republicans to filibuster |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Republicans and Democrats were a different kind back then, though. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. The Republicans have filibustered nothing. Republicans are permitted by Senator Reid to simply |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. To me, it seems that the middle class and the rich expect the poor and working poor |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. The poor and working poor are the ones who benefit this time around |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. So you stand with the rich against the middle class then. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Did I say that? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. The middle class (what's left of it) are getting hit by this tax and have been hit for 30 years |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. He's absolutely correct. There might be a short term savings in this approach |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
7. This is a backdoor tax on the middle class. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I hope they are backing off it, somewhat. I don't see it going away but it may be 'tweaked.' |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. In this economy employers have no incentive |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Make the health insurance companies pay for it. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Absolutely! They are the ones profiting. They contribute NOTHING to national health care, |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It could be argued that the insurance companies harm the health of Americans, |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why not from all of us? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I would support a progressive income tax to pay for it if they did any real cost control measures |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. What fucking planet do these assholes live on? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I think they live on a planet where they never had to work as a peon for one of these corporations |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-13-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. knr - especially this part ... |
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