13jan2010: note the phrasing (pro-abortion VS pro-choice) ... what the hell?!

[thotzRthingz]

I'm "pro-choice" but I would be livid if anyone said, to my face, that I'm "pro-abortion". I have to wonder how Rep. Diana DeGette feels about the difference in these terms?

13 January 2009

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- To the American people, there may seem to be a lull in the health care debate as members of Congress return from their Christmas break and try to piece together a final bill from the House and Senate versions. But one top pro-abortion activist in the House is working furiously to fund abortions.

Rep. Diana DeGette, the Colorado Democrat who leads the caucus of pro-abortion lawmakers, says she has been talking with the White House and others about how to resolve the abortion differences in the two bills.

The House measure contains the Stupak amendment that effectively bans government-funding of abortions under the health care plan -- consistent with current federal law under the Hyde amendment.

The Senate bill contains the Nelson-Reid deal that contains six different pro-abortion threats and forces taxpayers to pay for abortions.

“It is a meeting a minute around here,” DeGette told Roll Call magazine about the repeated efforts by top Democrats and the Obama administration to work out a solution.

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Stupak told Roll Call that he thinks issues other than abortion are more likely to sink the government-run health care bill.

“Abortion is the least of their problems,” he said, citing tax issues and deals cut to send money to certain states but not others.

Stupak also said lawmakers are hearing back home how unpopular the health care bill is with Americans.

“You know how popular these plans are? Like a lead balloon,” he said.

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source: http://www.lifenews.com/nat5872.html

[Bonn1997]

1. From reading the "About LifeNews.com" page, I see that they're a hardcore pro-life organization. It

isn't so surprising that they'd use that language.

[Hello_Kitty]

2. The extreme of the anti-choice movement is murdering doctors and jailing women

There is no corresponding extreme on the pro-choice side. There just isn't. There is no one advocating aborting every pregnancy. The pro-choice position - safe legal abortion, reliable and easily available contraception, and comprehensive sex ed - IS the mainstream middle ground. So what the forced birthers do is pretend that pro-choice means pro-abortion. They create a false equivalence and are almost never called on it, even by our side. This is why the suggestions that we should "find common ground" with these people are ludicrous.

[thotzRthingz]

4. well said... Kitty

There is no corresponding extreme on the pro-choice side. There just isn't. There is no one advocating aborting every pregnancy. The pro-choice position - safe legal abortion, reliable and easily available contraception, and comprehensive sex ed - IS the mainstream middle ground. So what the forced birthers do is pretend that pro-choice means pro-abortion. They create a false equivalence and are almost never called on it, even by our side. This is why the suggestions that we should "find common ground" with these people are ludicrous.

That's been my observation as well... there seems to be no reasoning with these fanatics!

I think we should start calling them PRO-DEATH'ers. Why? Because, invariably, as I talk with them... they've no real problem with the DEATH PENALTY... and of course, there's the willingness (or silent support thereof) to KILL people around, and in support of, abortion clinics.

They've never been able to explain to me how they SQUARE THAT with being what they call "pro-life"?! :wtf:

[Tansy_Gold]

3. It's amazing what happens when you say to someone

"Why yes, as a matter of fact, I am pro-abortion, just like I'm pro- a lot of things that are necessary in some situations."

All of a sudden it isn't so difficult.

I'm pro-doctors, too, but that doesn't mean I want to be one or that I'm going to go to the doctor for every little ache and pain, every little sliver or scrape.

I'm pro-automobile, too, when I think it's necessary to get from place to place. But I don't think everyone needs to drive the same car, or that we need to drive only cars, or that we need to drive all the time.

I'm in favor of abortions for those who feel that is their best option.

See, it isn't so difficult.



Tansy Gold

[SidDithers]

5. I'm pro abortion, just like I'm pro kidney transplant...nt

Sid

[damntexdem]

6. What do you expect from the anti-choice crowd?

They DO hate our freedoms.