Why just DELAY State of Union? Just CANCEL it 'til Obama has guts to VETO BaucusCare,keep his word &

[Faryn Balyncd]

....direct White House pressure at the obstructionists rather than at those in the U. S. House who are fighting for the principles he claimed were essential:

"ANY PLAN I SIGN must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family."

- - President Barack Obama, July 9, 2009

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php

"BARACK OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND ENSURE AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH COVERAGE FOR ALL":

"...Any American will have the opportunity to enroll in new public plan.”

- - Presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign website, 2008

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf

“needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market.”

- - President Barack Obama, to the AMA, June 15, 2009

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/22/obama-repeatedly-touted-public/

"John McCain calls these plans “Cadillac plans.” Now in some cases, it may be that a corporate CEO is getting too good a deal. But what if you’re a line worker making a good American car like the Cadillac? What if you’re one of the steelworkers who are working right here in Newport News, and you’ve given up wage increases in exchange for a better health care?

"Well, Senator McCain believes you should pay higher taxes too. The bottom line: the better your health care plan – the harder you’ve fought for your good benefits – the higher the taxes you’ll pay.

"You see, Senator McCain would pay for his plan, in part, by taxing your health care benefits for the first time in history.



- - Presidential candidate Barack Obama, October, 2008

http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/07/cadillac-flip-flop-obama-was-against-health-plan-tax-before-he-was-for-it/

Is the purpose of "State of the Union" address to be a staged celebration for passing lobbyist written mandates labeled as reform?


Until President Obama has the courage of his convictions to match those of true supporters in the House, will anyone be interested?






:kick:

[dionysus]

1. poutrage du jour? now he's gotta cancel the state of the union? jesus christ.

what's next, you want him to move out of the whitehouse into the gardener's shack until he please you?
:rofl:

[Faryn Balyncd]

2. A new record! "Unrec" Patrol strikes in 4.2 seconds!

[SidDithers]

4. When it's deserved, why delay?...nt

Sid

[dionysus]

5. OH TEH COWARDS UNREC MY THREAD!!1!!11 *sob*

:rofl:

[Faryn Balyncd]

7. Perhaps the cowards are the ones who won't fight for what they claim to believe, & betray those that

....do.

[dionysus]

10. yeah, because demanding he cancel the state of the union makes you somehow noble.

[KittyWampus]

12. oooooooooo, you're typing messages on DU is really what fighting is all about.

LOL

[ecstatic]

14. Your nasty subject line deserves a million unrecs

Why is it so hard for people to make their points with class?

[Faryn Balyncd]

16. People have been politely stating the President meant what he said for 12 months.......

......and we are on the verge of passing the antithesis.

[blondeatlast]

3. Lots of people are interested because they think for themselves. nt

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[dionysus]

9. asking the President to cancel the state of the union until the OP is please is idiocy.

[Faryn Balyncd]

13. It is the WHITE HOUSE that is said to want to DELAY the speech until signing.

[change_notfinetuning]

15. Details, details. n/t

[dionysus]

17. and it's the OP who wants it canceled. details indeed.

:shrug:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

8. I think he should cancel the State of the Union until

the last season of Lost is over.

[Faryn Balyncd]

11. That's a good point....Actually, it seems to be our HC plan that got "Lost"...?

:cry:

[TN al]

18. Isn't there a constitutional requirement to report to congress?

Not to give a speech granted, but he has to report. But don't let a pesky thing like the Constitution get in your way. Go ahead and bloviate.

[Faryn Balyncd]

19. That's a good point...............Article II, Section 3 states.......:

regarding the President: "He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient."

Wikipedia gives a concise history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_Union_address

(I did not remember that Carter gave a written report in 1981.)




Addendum:

Interesting, after looking at the language ("Necessary and expedient"), it would look like this would be an ideal time to use the bully pulpit to advance what he repeatedly labeled as a necessary pre-requisite - - the public plan.

And the idea of delaying such a report, so that a symbolic "W" could be celebrated, as the White House has been rumored to be considering, seems alien to the constitutional language.

[Igel]

20. In other words, no.

Doesn't have to be oral. Doesn't have to be annual or in the winter. Doesn't have to be all inclusive or self-promoting. Doesn't have to include the actual recommending of measures, either literally and precisely or more vaguely.