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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:59 AM
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Woman Tries to Trade Child for Gun
Arizona Woman Arrested for Giving 2-Year-Old Daughter up in Exchange for Weapon

(AP) Authorities say they have arrested an Arizona woman who traded her 2-year-old daughter for a gun.

Maricopa County sheriff's deputies arrested 33-year-old Tanya Nareau of Mesa on Tuesday after receiving a tip.

Deputies say they spoke with a family friend who had the child and confirmed Nareau gave the girl to him for gun.

Deputies say Nareau felt the friend would do a better job raising the child than she would.

Authorities say Nareau has been charged with the unlawful sale of a child and solicitation to possess a weapon by a prohibited person.

It was unclear if Nareau had legal representation.


link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/13/national/main6095100.shtml?tag=stack


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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:07 AM
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1. "Guns for food" programs always fail because people buy cheap guns to trade
for the expensive ingredients offered.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:10 AM
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2. 'unlawful sale of a child' - is there a lawful way to do it? n/t

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:19 AM
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3. The child is much more dangerous than the gun.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:48 AM
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5. as a father of 3
i am almost inclined to agree with you.

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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:29 PM
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9. As a mother of 3 teenagers,
I am almost inclined to agree with the ARIZONA MOM!!!

Any takers?

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 01:08 PM
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11. Sorry...I have some guns, but I certainly have no use for a teenager.
I couldn't even afford to feed one.

mark
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:19 PM
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12. sure you could. just give them some beer...
if you were willing to part with any of it.

i got through high school living on Old Crow, pot, and flat beer hidden in my closet.

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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:08 PM
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15. I won't do it!!!!
Anything else, just don't ask me to give up the Old Crow!!! I get through LIFE with that stuff!!

Makes me shudder to think what might be hidden in my sons' closets.......... probably not just booze.

t.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:28 PM
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18. You are better off not knowing...and you would hear,"You don't TRUST ME!!!!!"
for the next 10 years or so.

Like you should TRUST a teenager.....



mark
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:27 PM
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17. See, that's part of the problem - I have an alcohol-free home, no
electronic games, only one old TV and a lot of books. They would be bored to death, probably eat more.

Actually I played in a bar band my last 1 1/2 years of high school, managed to sleep through most of it.

My wife dealt with her last year in HS by almost never showing up and creating so much trouble when she did they gave her a diploma so she would never come back.

Of course that was in the old days before all that stupid counseling and shit.


mark
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:03 AM
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26. your wife and i have a LOT in common.
:rofl:

and here i thought i was a unique case.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:30 AM
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28. She graduated from college after virtually skipping the last 2 years of high school.
Those were the days.....

I started playing in bar bands and strip shows at age 15, went to catholic school in the daytime.

We met at an AA meeting.

mark
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:59 AM
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29. THAT'S love, man.
nice to have someone that can relate on a more "below the surface" level like that. rare.

playing in strip clubs by night, and attending mass by day. you sound like a superhero.

:rofl:

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 04:19 PM
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33. Tried to think up a catchy supername, but sadly I have ended up as
"old baldman!!!!"

mark
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 05:59 PM
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35. what are you talking about!?!?!?!?!
"old mark" is the ultimate bad ass superhero name.

who the fuck in their right mind with mess with "old mark"??

not me. sounds like a crazy sonofabitch to me.

:rofl:

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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:02 PM
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14. Me either......
on both counts!

:rofl:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:29 PM
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21. No thanks. I already raised my two to adulthood, and I have often taken in other people's
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 05:30 PM by tblue37
difficult teens when they could no longer stand them.

But I have an article about adolescents on my Who's Minding the Children website that might give you some hope:

"Adolescence: Living on Capital"
http://www.childrensneeds.homestead.com/adolescence.html
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:47 AM
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23. Thank you, that was an interesting read......
Although I found my daughter to be the most difficult of the 3. She is actually 21 now and living on her own as a responsible, well adjusted young woman. So I suppose there is hope for the boys.....

Ironically, I received a "robo" call from the High School principal last night. It was to inform parents that while there had been a gun incident at the school that day, no shots were actually fired. Needless to say, I was stunned. I can't say that I was exactly reassured by the statement that no shots were fired. I asked the boys if they knew what it was about, and the younger one stated, "yeah, there was supposed to be some kind of a 'shoot out', but I dunno what happened with that." As if this were just a normal, everyday occurrence.

WTF??????


Sad that our kids are having to deal with this kind of "reality" on a daily basis. Putting it into perspective, my kids are really NOT that bad! There are worse problems out there than laziness, slovenliness and being constant "eating machines".

And maybe I shouldn't have been making light of the tragic OP story.

t








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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 11:24 AM
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4. Before I pass judgment...
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 11:25 AM by shawcomm
what kind of gun?

:evilgrin:
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:07 PM
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6. Transferrable GE M134 Minigun
I'd trade a kid for a transferrable minigun any day of the week.
Twice on Sundays.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:16 PM
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7. Was it a nice gun?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 12:19 PM
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8. Sheesh.....
Just.....sheesh.:wow:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 01:03 PM
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10. So this looked like a reasonable solution
Taking everything at face value, Mom didn't think she could raise her child very well. Calls friend, and offers to hand over daughter, because friend can raise daughter better. And, getting a quo for her quid (kid), she would like the friend's gun. Somewhere in this woman's mind, this appeared to be not just a reasonable solution, but a desireable outcome. The gun was more valuable to her than her daughter, given her circumstances.

There's a LOT to say about that, but I'm trying to keep my New Year's resolution.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:09 PM
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13. My guess is
that she planned to use the gun ONE time, to fire ONE shot.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 12:04 PM
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30. I think you may be correct....
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 12:05 PM by winyanstaz
either that or she was in a lot of fear about something.
However she obviously is not capable of taking care of that poor baby.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:22 PM
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16. So when you take a kid to a gunshow for trade...
How do they check to make sure it's unloaded and clear?
More importantly, do they make silencer for kids? Especially for 2-6 yr olds!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:28 PM
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19. I guess no one posted her a pic of their cute kid before she got pregnant
Because in the Lounge, that's all that's needed to make someone have a child and magically become a good parent.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:30 PM
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20. I think it's very funny that most of the replies here seem to think
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 04:31 PM by old mark
it could have been a good trade.

If it had been a nice used car.....

mark
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:36 PM
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22. how did the child get the gun...? and what was she offering in trade...?
see- these are the questions that need to be asked.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:53 AM
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24. If the mother is willing to do that, maybe the kid would rather be traded.
:shrug: :(
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Sans Culottes Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:56 AM
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25. "Maricopa County sheriff's deputies"
Good chance this case is tainted.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:21 AM
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27. And this is illegal why?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 12:06 PM
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31. Was it a wilson custom supergrade?
kidding. Sounds like some crackhead shit to me.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 12:11 PM
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32.  Only way to left to get a Shrike
You want your deposit back ?!?!?!

And what is "Lawful sale of a child"? ...and who would set the "lawful sale price"? Could there be a "lawful sale" with a "crimnally negligent" price? Gotta love the hyperbole of Goverment English .
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 04:20 PM
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34. Seems like an even trade.
Why is there a problem with this? Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
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