so france basically kept haiti in poverty throughout the 19th century with their "reparations"

[niyad]

for the haitians winning their freedom--how much aid and money are THEY pledging?

[Democrats_win]

1. Some French guy has been on TV saying there is only so much that can be done.

Basically doing the bush dance.

[niyad]

2. why am I not surprised?

[peacetalksforall]

3. As ready as I am to pounce on their leaders for what they participated in against Aristede, I did

see France in the post about the recovery dogs and their team handlers preparing to leave for Haiti.

My advice is - keep your eye on anything coming out of the World Bank and the IMF. Are they going to help or are they going to continue to be predators.

Who conducted a regime change against Aristede? The answer is the U.S., France, IMF, and World Bank and tag-alongs and enablers in the country that agreed to take him - all arranged in advance.

The next question is WHY? We don't know yet.

It may relate to regime change in Cuba.

The other question is - why are so many Haitians being held in prisons in the U.S. as political prisoners.

Why don't we know these things and why is Obama continuing this part of what he and we inherited.

[Rebubula]

7. Citation, please

"The other question is - why are so many Haitians being held in prisons in the U.S. as political prisoners."

I was unaware that we have political prisoners - well....other than non-violent drug offenders.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Think about it -

A Haitian refugee illegally enters the US. He is arrested, held, then eventually deported.

A Cuban refugee illegally enters the US. He is arrested, signs some papers, and is released to roam free range in southern Florida.

The difference between them is politics. That means, the one held is a political prisoner.

[Pirate Smile]

4. I heard that. It is insane that former slaves had to pay reparations to the former slave owners.

Insane.

[malaise]

6. The one case in history where the victors did not enjoy the spoils

Aristide was still demanding debts owed to Haiti. I hope he returns home - how dare Western powers tell any citizen of an independent country that they cannot return to their home.
Years ago I heard that Allen Stanford played a role in his removal from Haiti. I wonder if that will come up in his ponzi scheme trial.

[Winterblues]

8. Don't give Republican any ideas

I can see it now. Republicans come out for Blacks to pay back former slave owners for their losses after Lincoln set them free. If it worked for the Haitians it should work for Americans as well...:crazy:

[Warpy]

5. Yes, and we kept the game going in the twentieth century

with our support of one brutal dictator after another who delivered a compliant work force.

The French are sending teams and supplies. The people who are alive there now are not the same bloodsuckers who were alive 200 years ago.