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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:53 PM
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If George W. Bush raises $1 from the right wingers for Haiti...
Then Obama was justified in asking him to do it.

It is just that simple.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:55 PM
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1. Roger that Berni
A good cause is a good cause.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:55 PM
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2. That's half a week's pay for many people in Haiti who have jobs. K&R
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:55 PM
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3. I agree Berni! nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:56 PM
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4. Has he agreed to it?
I'd only heard that Obama asked him -- I don't know what his response was. Thanks.

and I agree. Help should come from wherever they can get it. And Bush owes the peoples of the world.


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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:57 PM
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6. I saw on Twitter that he had agreed. Reuters said he had. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:59 PM
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9. Thanks. It will be interesting to see how he goes about it. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:59 PM
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10. PS -- and I bet he's not happy about it. nt
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:56 PM
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5. What?
$1 is pretty cheap to whitewash past criminal acts.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:58 PM
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7. He could raise $1 billion, and it wouldn't whitewash his past criminal acts. nt
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:16 PM
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12. Former Illinois Governor George Ryan placed a moratorium on his state's death penalty...
....which I believe was a very noble and courageous thing of him to do.

He was also rightfully convicted of charges such as tax fraud, money laundering and racketeering for actions related to his term in office, and is currently serving a prison term.

Support of a noble action from an un-noble person isn't necessarily a contradiction.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:20 PM
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14. Did he do it of his own volition, did he believe the death penalty was wrong? I don't think
Bush would be lifting a finger had he not been asked by Obama. I don't think he cares. Regardless of the amount of money he may raise, I don't view his participation as a "noble" action on his part.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:29 PM
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25. Nobody's saying it would. (nt)
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:58 PM
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8. Any money that Bush raises...
It will go right into the pockets of surviving Duvaliers.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:02 PM
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11. All he has to do is call a couple of buddies in the oil business and
he'll be golden... They'll do anything to make Bush look at least a little better and I say good for all of them. This is about helping these poor people and if it takes scoundrels so be it...
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:17 PM
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13. That country needs all the help it can get
even if it's from GWB.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:30 PM
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15. Tell ya what, berni. I'm going to follow the money.
No matter where it goes, I'll post it here. How's that?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:10 PM
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17. If you think your time is well spent doing that, more power to you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:13 PM
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19. It will be. Because unless I'm wrong (which happens)
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 07:14 PM by EFerrari
for every dollar he raises, his cronies will get one and the Haitian people will be indebted two.

But, whatever, I'll do my best to track it down and post it.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:15 PM
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21. Actually, its all about Shock Doctrine Disaster Capitalism in action.
money raised will come with development conditions, long term aid will take the form of loans with economic conditions that serve the interests of places like the Heritage Foundation and its cronies.

Here's the scenario:
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/14/naomi_klein_issues_haiti_disaster_capitalism
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:18 PM
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22. Yes.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:26 PM
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24. I expect you'll be proven correct. That's certainly been the pattern in the past. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:49 PM
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27. I'm listening to Naomi Klein read this off of the Heritage Foundation site
on a clip Amy ran this morning:

Amidst the Suffering, Crisis in Haiti Offers Opportunities to the U.S.
In addition to providing immediate humanitarian assistance, the U.S. response to the tragic earthquake in Haiti earthquake offers opportunities to re-shape Haiti’s long-dysfunctional government and economy as well as to improve the public image of the United States in the region…

While on the ground in Haiti, the U.S. military can also interrupt the nightly flights of cocaine to Haiti and the Dominican Republic from the Venezuelan coast and counter the ongoing efforts of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to destabilize the island of Hispaniola. This U.S. military presence, which should also include a large contingent of U.S. Coast Guard assets, can also prevent any large-scale movement by Haitians to take to the sea in rickety watercraft to try to enter the U.S. illegally.

Meanwhile, the U.S. must be prepared to insist that the Haiti government work closely with the U.S. to insure that corruption does not infect the humanitarian assistance flowing to Haiti. Long-term reforms for Haitian democracy and its economy are also badly overdue.

* * *

Apparently, they took it down a few hours later. But I found it here (I don't know anything about this site but this was the text Klien was reading

http://www.phuckpolitics.com/
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:34 PM
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16. he's giving W a chance to do something good ...
let's see if he does the right thing.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:13 PM
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18. Not if there is a better righ-wing outreach figure who also does not happen to be a war criminal.
If someone else could raise 2 dollars to Bush's every 1, then it was a bad choice.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:13 PM
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20. use the useless shit to raise money for someone other than the rich
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:23 PM
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23. WhistleAss is gifted at picking pockets and funneling the money
May as well use for something other than enriching the already rich for once.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:33 PM
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26. Yup n/t
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