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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:16 PM
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Sen. Al Franken Franken expresses support for Pres. Obama's Afghanistan troop increase
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 06:20 PM by bigtree

U.S. Senator Al Franken, D-Minn., talks during a press conference in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Wednesday.

January 14, 2010 - 12:35 PM

WASHINGTON - "I do support the president's plan," Sen. Franken said, adding that he will vote for additional funding. "I may have done it a little bit differently myself but I ... came away from this trip feeling that we already have momentum from the president's speech."

Sen. Franken noted that officials in the area told him local police recruitment spiked after Obama's announcement - likely, they think, because of the stated deadlines for withdrawal.

Sen. Franken said he has attended 13 military funerals. "I don't want to see one more soldier go to Afghanistan than has to go there," he said.

After meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Sen. Franken said that "I'm having more optimistic feelings about the government there," but added that "there is still some reason to be skeptical."

Given the region's long history of corrupt government, he said, "This is not going to be a Jeffersonian democracy in a year and a half."


full article: http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/81523727.html?elr=KArksD:aDyaEP:kD:aUq9_b9b_jEkP:QUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:21 PM
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1. I hope he looks out for buses.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:26 PM
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2. beep beep
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:14 PM
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25. That one ran out of gas a long time ago.
Here's the modern version.



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:43 PM
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26. you're misinformed. It's been upgraded
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:52 PM
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38. How about this one

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:51 AM
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39. aw
missing him
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:27 PM
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3. well boo on him. I see he's drank the nation bulding kool-aid.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 08:13 PM
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30. Al, we hardly knew ye!
One more Washington insider.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:30 PM
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4. The Pod People have gotten to him.
I'd like to see, just once, somebody besides Kucinich stand up against the excuses for war.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:32 PM
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5. Oh, so now Franken is wrong
You guys really need to run for office so you can save us all.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:35 PM
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7. Then who would save the world by mashing hard on keyboards?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:37 PM
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11. Dr. Phil?
Oops, I meant Dr. Who.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:41 PM
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13. c,mon now
Do you really want folks here to take that attitude toward your opinion that you so graciously share here? How about arguing the issues and leave the 'keyboard' analysis of folks who post here out of the debate?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:01 PM
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23. your very considerate

my narrow point is that people who actually go out and run for office should be given more consideration than all of us who mash on keyboards, myself included.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:06 PM
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24. It's up to the senator to convince on this issue and vote
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 07:07 PM by bigtree
. . . in my view he hasn't convinced.

That's what we do out here on the verge, we listen to our senators and representatives that we advance to office and we agree or disagree. I don't know of any rational or acceptable precept of democracy which counsels that we merely delegate all of our opinion to those we elect.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:46 PM
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28. of course we don't delegate our conscience to our representatives

and your posting this thread which is against your personal interest speaks volumes to your contribution to the debate.

That is why I try to read all of your postings, knowing that some, especially on Afghanistan, are going to conflict with my opinion.


My snarky response was not aimed at folks like you but others who post anti Obama remarks EVEN WHEN THOSE ACTIONS AGREE WITH THEIR OWN POSITIONS.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:37 PM
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10. yeah, Sen. Franken is wrong
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 06:50 PM by bigtree
. . . and no one who dares disagree with him needs to 'run for Congress' to register their dissent here.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:39 PM
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12. I would think you'd all want to run, being that you are experts on financial, health & military
issues. God, if only I were as smart, I'd find somewhere else to post.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:43 PM
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15. at what point in our expression here would you allow 'us' the benefit of your approval?
. . . let us know when we've reached the limits of our intelligence, willya? :crazy:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:54 PM
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You're intelligent enough to figure that out on your own.
I am not worthy.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:00 PM
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31. .
you do realize that visits to GD can result in unwanted stress, don't you?

Here, just in case: :hug:

:P
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:03 PM
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34. I went and had a life for a few hours
That's where I differ...lol.

Thanks for the hug and back atcha
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:09 PM
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35. I think...
this thread, as it has good news in the subject line, would benefit from a highjacking.

I'll start.

How surprised are you that the Lounge thread still lives?

Don't you wish you had a nickle for every reply?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:12 PM
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36. I am so proud of us.
we've accomplished something Obama "disappoint-ees" could never ever accomplish by hard work and stick toitiveness (is that a word?) Is dissappoint-ees a word? I'm so rad.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 10:34 PM
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37. Yes, I believe you have that right...
"Disappointees", with the President being the "Disappointor in Chief", so say NYC_SKP and graywarrior, and so shall it be.

Of course such a thread could never live long among the self-appointed disappointees because the subject of their specific disappointment would become a matter of division and mortal combat.

you are so rad.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:34 PM
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6. oh well
Must be some strong kool-aid up there.

Score +1 for the PTB, and goodbye Al.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:36 PM
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8. Bigtree you continue to amaze K and R
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:37 PM
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9. But wasn't Franken in favor of the Iraq War, too, at least initially?
This shouldn't come as a huge surprise. Al is a middle-of-the-road Dem, not a progressive.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:48 PM
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19. right
He's been mostly 'moderate' on the issue of the ongoing deployments throughout.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:41 PM
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14. so sad. so very sad. Al sells out.
I am saddened by this, and took him off my email list.
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shadesofgray Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:34 PM
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33. +1
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:43 PM
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16. Well, it won't take long for DUers to turn on Franken now. n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:46 PM
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17. If folks are consistent in their opposition to the Afghanistan escalation and occupation
. . . they'll likely consider his comments and vote in that light. I don't see that as anything sinister or a stance which deserves ridicule.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:47 PM
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18. Support for Franken was not unanimous here during the long recount...
Many considered him a DLC stooge.

I have enormous respect for the man inteligence, wit, and humanity.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:49 PM
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20. no doubt
. . . all of those superlatives apply to Sen. Franken.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:54 PM
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22.  This place could give one whiplash.
I had to laugh at his newfound hero status here. I remember some of the bile directedtowards him even as the decision hadn't come yet.

FWIW, I always thought he'd be a fine Senator and still do.

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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 06:50 PM
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21. Well that's a damn shame...
I knew he supported Iraq, but after everything that's happened, I was hoping he wouldn't be be so willing to give his support of the Afghanistan occupation.

I voted for him despite his hawk-ish nature, just like I did with President Obama.

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:44 PM
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27. Al Franken is a big, fat idiot. nt
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 07:50 PM
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29. recommended
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 09:16 PM
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32. Hear that sound?
It's a couple of million knees jerking.
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