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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:23 PM
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The tragic truth:Voters KNOW that the GOP could NEVER have passed a corporate-insurance-only mandate




When the overwhelming majority of voters support all Americans having access to a PUBLIC PLAN like Medicare, only to witness the Democrats they elect respond with a CORPORATE-INSURANCE-ONLY MANDATE that corporatists could NEVER have been achieved under the worst Republican rule, we’ve got problems.



Voters know that under Republican rule, taxing middle class health insurance benefits under a scheme that will let inflation classify every plan as “Cadillac” in time would have been a total non-starter (on both sides of the aisle).



Voters know that under Republican rule, Democrats would have been UNITED in opposing a plan that would permanently cement into place a health care paradigm based upon mandatory corporate insurance, rather than expanding Medicare.



Already the Public Option Bait & Switch (and the evanescent bait of a Medicare Buy-In) has caused the support for HCR to be reversed, and voter revulsion has caused even the safest Democratic seats to be in question.



Will the stench of the corprocrats destroy us all?



Or will voters see, as Americans need, a successful rebellion by principled Slaughter/Woolsey/Lee/Kucinich/Massa/DeFazio Democrats?






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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:25 PM
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1. McCains plan was to give a 5000 tax break and eliminate All employer contributions
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:29 PM
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2. He could NEVER have passed it. Democrats would have been united, & ....
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 01:31 PM by Faryn Balyncd


....even with unanimous Republican support (which he would NOT have achieved on this issue), he could never have gotten it through Congress.




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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:43 PM
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5. The larger issue is that McCain wouldn't have dared propose (much less pass) a corporate-ins-mandate
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:32 PM
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3. Unfortunate but true
I still would not have voted for mac and the quitter.
At this point I wont be going to the polls next time out unless there is a real progressive to vote for. I have been a registered dem since the day I turned 18.
I saw our ballots in Fla being shredded by the amBushco fiends. no fuckin way in hell will I EVER vote for an R.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:42 PM
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4. progressives need to mobilize and take power back from the DLC; maybe
the tea baggers, as loathesome as their agenda is, can serve as an example?

they are trying to colonize the GOP:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/us/politics/15party.html?ref=todayspaper
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:47 PM
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6. Only Nixon could go to China
Nixon created the EPA. If we're not careful, the GOP will bring us single payer. Apparently the dems can't do it.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:06 PM
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9. This seems to be a recurring phenomena, which can have results both constructive & destructive.
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 02:07 PM by Faryn Balyncd
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:49 PM
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7. We may be seeing the slow demise of Centrist DLC.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 01:50 PM
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8. Republicans couldn't have passed NAFTA.
Republicans could not have destroyed AFDC.

As a poster said above, only Nixon could go to China.

This is not atypical, but it is deeply disappointing.

I voted for FDR, but I got Clinton instead.

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-Laelth
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:46 PM
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18. +1
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:18 PM
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10. I'm sorry, I seem to have stumbled into the wrong site.
I thought that somehow DU was a place that supported Democrats. :shrug:
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:24 PM
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11. Reread the OP, all it did WAS support Democrats. n/t
n/t
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:30 PM
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13. Okay. You can have your opinion, and I will have mine.
:)
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:29 PM
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12. Tired. nt
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:45 PM
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17. Yes, I am tired.
Some people on this board somehow always manage to paint a negative picture of Democrats. It's almost subliminal.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:34 PM
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14. It's not a fan club.
Let me ask you-- a few years back, when GOP's fanbase pledged their support for the party, no matter what it did... did you find that admirable? Did you even think it would be productive for their party, in the long-term?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:37 PM
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15. Yes, but according to this commercial around the 25 second mark, they would have
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:44 PM
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16. Yep. McCain ran on a plan it's doubtful he could have passed.Obama ran against it, & passes it.
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 02:46 PM by Faryn Balyncd
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 02:55 PM
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19. Kind of like Alice In Wonderland.. n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 05:39 PM
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20. I agree
This bill is a con job no matter how you look at it!

It has actually given me reason to fundamentally examine whether I will vote for Obama in the next election. I would have NEVER thought after his inuaguration he could have made me feel this way in such a short time.
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