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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:19 PM
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If Coakley loses in MA, The Democratic Party will move to the right.
Look at history.

Whenever the Democrats lose an election, it always moves them to the right.

Always.

If Coakley loses in Massachusetts on Tuesday, look at Ben Nelson and see what will at that precise moment be considered "slightly left of center" in a Democratic Party that has lost a major election.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:23 PM
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1. Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996. Each time he won he moved even further right.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:33 PM
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3. He didn't move further right until 1995
after losing the Congress. Remember, DADT was EXTREMELY to the left when it was instituted because for the first time, the military could not investigate suspicions a person was gay. HCR under Clinton was going to be EXTREMELY left, until the Dems in the Congress killed it.

After 1996, he still had nothing helping him in congress as it was still Republican controlled, so he moved further right.

After 1998, the Dems moved a slightly to the left having picked up a few seats, but that went to hell in 2000 when they made a seismic move to the right.

Then they lost in 2002, and moved further right.

Then they lost in 2004, and moved even further to the right.

Then they won in 2006, and moved slightly to the left. Hardly noticeable, but the momentum to the right stopped.

Won again in 2008 and yet again, another slight move to the left.

Losing this one seat will mean another seismic move to the right
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:30 PM
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2. When they win, they move to the right.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:34 PM
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4. Bullshit
in 2007, HCR wold not even be talked about in committees, let alone a bill get through both houses.

In 2007, a stimulus bill would never have been considered, let alone passed, even if the financial conditions were 100 times worse than they were in 2009.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:39 PM
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11. Your examples don't make any sense
as there was a big Doofus in the White House who would've vetoed HCR or stimulus...duh.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:43 PM
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12. Mmmhmmm.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:37 PM
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5. They're already about where Goldwater was in '64. Not sure how much further right we can go. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:37 PM
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7. Ben Nelson = Left of Center
That's how far it will go.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:39 PM
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10. It's a horror. Hope they can pull it out. nt
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:37 PM
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6. If the national Party moves any further right what will we call it?
Because it's virtually indistinguishable from the Republican Party as it is.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:38 PM
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8. The Republicans will move further right, too
That's the hitch.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:38 PM
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9. Then why don't we quit this bullshit and help her WIN!
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:35 PM
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13. If that is the lesson they learn, then we are really in trouble
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