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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:30 PM
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Is snorting paint fumes less dangerous than posting here?
I know everyone has their own point of view, but we are all Democrats aren't we?

I like to paint cars and motorcycles and there is a very good website I go to frequently where people with similar interests go as well. The website is interesting in that about half the posts on it are from pure amateurs look for any advice they can get to body shop owners and operators who trade info with others in the trade and also go to a great deal of trouble to help others. Then there a lot of guys like me, small custom painters.

Now here's the thing about the painter's site. We all come there with common interest - automotive painting and bodywork techniques. We come there with vastly different levels of experience. We also come with prejudices, mostly about brand loyalties for materials and equipment. There are a million paint manufacturers, there are a million ways to lay down paint, there are a million spray gun manufacturers, and there are a zillion combinations of them all - and everyone has their own favorites.

And they talk back and forth all day long, day after day, and they never - and I mean never - get into arguments. They are respectful of different opinions, methods, and knowledge of when things were not as they are now. And plenty of alternative suggestions get offered too - really lots of them. Guys over there don't call each other idiots and asshats because they see different ways to accomplish what they both agree to be the same ends. And if a guy is consistent in recommending one brand of products or one process for a particular situation he's generally not called a sellout, but might be asked if he had tried alternatives and if so to what result. Its nice to see a civil discussion where disagreement exists.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:33 PM
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1. Painting ain't politics..
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 06:34 PM by Fumesucker
People are not emotionally wrapped up in their choice of paint brands, it's not going to take your rights away or keep you from having health care if someone else uses PPG/Ditzler instead of Sherwin Williams.

Edited to add a phrase and for speling.



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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:38 PM
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8. HOK
I will rip the throat out of anyone who disrespects the holy name of House of Kolor. That would be a DU version.

I perfer House of Kolor KK series paints myself, but I work almost exclusively in Kandy colors and that may explain my perference. That would be the sort of response you'd see over there.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:42 PM
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12. That doesn't work for all technical fields..
Start talking about choices of OS for your computer and see how fast the fur starts to fly. :)

The closer to a "religious" thing a subject is the more acrimony you'll see.

I'm on a couple of technical forums myself and there is little acrimony but it does vary with the subject matter.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:12 PM
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19. Great name for a paint forum BTW.
:thumbsup:
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:34 PM
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2. heh, you should see some of the gaming sites
I've been gaming and participating on gaming sites since long before I ever heard of DU. The people there are truly nasty, they make DU seem down right civil :D
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 12:11 AM
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27. Yep.
Give the fanboys a poke and they go absolutely rabid. It's pretty hilarious.
I don't even know why people bother trolling political message boards at all. Not when you can go on a game board and say something as innocent as "I heard Blizzard was getting rid of magic find in D3." and a half a dozen people will immolate themselves in protest.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:34 PM
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3. How DARE you mention paint fumes!
I am very against paint fumes and it really jerks my chain when someone tries to foist them on me in an internet sort of way. Fie! Fie on you!
:evilgrin:
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:35 PM
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4. Well there is at least broad agreement on the worth of Pat Robertson.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:35 PM
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5. And Rush.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:37 PM
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6. Both good points.
DU is most comfortable in a fighting stance. The best scenarios include someone else to be fighting with.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:37 PM
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7. DU was sorta like that years ago
Pretty gentle until the clinton/obama fiasco. Ain't been the same since.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:38 PM
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9. Dunno. Never snorted paint before.
I've sniffed glue before, though.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:39 PM
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10. How can someone get into a rage or depressed about motocycle paint?
Actually it would be funny if anyone went into a major depressed raging rant over it wouldn't it?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:42 PM
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11. How could you not?
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 06:45 PM by ThomWV
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WT Fuheck Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:49 PM
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13. It's frequently more pleasant...
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:54 PM
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14. Yes, I think it is.
DU is a frothing free for all on some days, full of know it all pissy pants who love to type.
Meh.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:54 PM
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15. First, I agree that there is far too much name-calling, hostile
language, and fascist unreccing of unpopular opinions. It doesn't offend me, and I don't respond in kind, but it makes me a little ashamed. We can do much better than playground insults and electronic book burning.

That said, the welfare of my grandchildren doesn't depend on my automobile or motorcycle paint choices.

I'm of the opinion that the two-party system is broken, and that no amount of party loyalty and lesser-of-two-evils voting strategy is going to solve the problem. Those who find activism offensive will naturally disagree with me that the solution is to attack the status quo by threatening to destroy the foundation upon which it is built. This disagreement is slightly more significant than an argument over the number of coats of lacquer necessary to get a really great 3D effect for flames painted on a gas tank.

I want to see:
Politicians and the business elite quivering in fear and afraid to be caught in the streets;
Bankers watching there empires crumble as citizens withdraw their savings with massive and orchestrated runs on banks;
National franchises disappear and people do business locally;
Businesses targeted for boycotts closing their doors as a lesson to other businesses that their profits cannot come at the expense of people;
Warehouses full of rusted and moth-eaten imported goods, decaying because Americans can at least agree that jobs going oversees is, in general, a bad thing;
Millions of acres of crops rotting in the fields because undocumented workers find the wherewithal to unite the way the United Farm Workers united when I was young;
Thousands of people defying authority and shutting down cities hosting any meeting related to globalization.

I can understand why the party faithful who are so happy to have a Democrat in office that they accept any move that isn't a step backward as a step forward would find my plans for the future uncomfortable enough to have a little adrenalin show up in there replies.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:15 PM
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22. Well said, thanks for posting. n/t
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:32 PM
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26. Just a little wish list
I keep in the back of my mind.

It may come in handy someday.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 06:57 PM
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16. There aren't any isocyanates to worry about here.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:15 PM
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21. If I live to be 90 I still couldn't spell that word - my hat is off to you.
I used to do some painting with Awl Grip on boats and to be quite honest about it the stuff scared me to death.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:23 PM
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25. I screwed up my lungs painting one of my motorcycles.
Not the end of the world, but for a while I could definitely feel the difference. I think I've regained most of my capacity, thankfully. Use a forced air supply. That shit is evil.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:04 PM
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17. Well, this week they are painting the interior walls in the building where I work.
And I can safely say that posting on DU while snorting paint fumes is more dangerous than either alone.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:09 PM
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18. There is no political/social benefit to stirring up trouble amongst a bunch of
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 07:09 PM by patrice
automotive painters and bodyworkers.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:13 PM
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20. No
Snorting paint fumes is far worse. Don't take this place too seriously.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:18 PM
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23. One thing is for sure. You can now post the dumbest and most
outrageous screeds and noone will know the difference.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 07:19 PM
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24. i'm not a democrat
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:41 AM
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28. Hilarious headline!
Hmm, you know, you might not be able to assess that until at least 4 generations pass.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 02:04 AM
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29. F'ing Sherwin-Williams shill.
:hi:
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