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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:27 PM
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Anybody Care To Opine On Why The MA Senate Race Is Even Close ???
Coakley was 30 points ahead back in November.

Link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ma/massachusetts_senate_special_election-1144.html

And what if Libertarian Joseph Kennedy wasn't in the race. He can only be drawing votes away from Brown, no??

Anybody have a handle on what's really happening in MA???

:shrug:



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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:31 PM
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1. It probably isn't close, It's just easier to steal if you convince people it is. nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:32 PM
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2. Rahm Emmanuel and the DLC pissed off the liberals.
Why vote for another DLC candidate like Coakley if liberals are just going to be screwed by her? Better off sitting out the election than contributing to the problem.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:34 PM
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5. The voter turn out in ultra liberal and heavy union districts will be telling
Did the hard core base of the party show up?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:33 PM
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3. My guess is that Teddy's organization pretty much had the territory tied up for
the Dems and maybe didn't let enough diverse thought into the mix. Also, Martha isn't much of a candidate and didn't try very hard.

We were caught off guard, let's face it. We should have been more flexible and diverse in our organization in MA. We simply fell down on the job here.

Some of these political shifts are like tecnonic plates under the surface. We don't really know about them until the really big earthquake hits, then we're surprised. Teddy was in office for a really long time and our party in MA atrophied, obviously. It happens. Change goes on whether we want it to or not.

As our poet laureate, Kay Ryan, puts in "We recongeal. It's a surpise."
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:33 PM
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4. With Dems outnumbering repukes by 3 to 1, and being Kennedy's seat, something is seriously wrong.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:35 PM
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6. Because a close race sells newpapers
so it's going to be called a close race regardless of the facts.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:25 PM
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21. Yep.
Prediction: It's not going to be as close as people are currently saying.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:35 PM
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7. It's a midterm and Coakley doesn't inspire enthusiasm
Kennedy is in the race only because of his last name. He'll draw stupid voters. Whether there are more GOP than Dem is moot.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:37 PM
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16. Well, I Don't Know How Many Stupid Voters There Are In MA...
(I guess we'll know the answer to that next week), but...

all I was saying is that it's remarkable that Brown is close to Coakley at all, let alone the fact that he will have votes siphoned from HIM because of Kennedy. How much... who knows.

But this sure doesn't look like it's gonna go NY-23rd.

:shrug:

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:36 PM
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8. Because she has an unpleasant voice and he's better looking.
And many people make judgments based on superficial things like that.

:shrug:
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:22 PM
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13. Because she is a poor debater, because she decided she didn't need to
practice retail politics and did almost no doorbelling or phoning, because she didn't ask unions for legwork, because she listened to lawyer friends instead of political hacks when she planned campaign strategy, because she had prepared no way to answer questions about some of her unpopular cases that were sure to surface...

Hers is a textbook case of how to lose an election.
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shopgreen Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:15 PM
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18. Did she think she was entitled to the seat??
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:24 PM
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26. Seems that way.
:eyes:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:36 PM
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9. Maybe it's all just bullshit.
I mean bullshit is really, really common in politics?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:41 PM
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10. Voters are souring on the Democratic party maybe?
The people knew we were in trouble in 2008 when they overwhelmingly voted for Democrats across the board due to their promises of change after 8 years of Bush.

They wanted to see a sharp reversal in a DC political structure that seemed a subsidiary of corporate america.

Here we are a year+ later and what has changed for the better for the bottom 75% of income groups?

They see trillions for banks without question or the imposition of tough regulations, billions and billions of dollars for bonuses on Wall street, but theres no jobs for average folks, no COLA for Social Security recipients, no help to keep their homes from foreclosure.

Many people are fed up with the direction they see the country headed, and the Republicants have a lot to capitalize on.

Our party has done themselves no favors by capitulating to big money, but even worse they've done the people no favors in the process.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:03 PM
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11. +++
Hey, we'll vote for them no matter how bad they screw us, Right?

NOT!
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:18 PM
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12. You hit the nail on the head.
Regardless of whether Coakley wins, the fact that it is even close should be a wake up call for the national party.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:24 PM
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14. Joseph Kennedy's name on the ballot is going to be a misleading eyesore. nt
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:27 PM
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15. You can't sit back and think you are going to win just because you are the chosen one.
She should of been out there fighting for the job. If she loses it will be her fault.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:43 PM
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17. I agree with two points above...
The "looks" and people don't like to vote in someone everyone EXPECTS should be handed the job.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:18 PM
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19. I dont think the DLC dems have any idea how angry the base is
maybe this will wake them up.
no, never mind, the smell of corporate money only wakes them up.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:23 PM
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20. Makes a good cover story for the eventual electro-fraud.
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leftygolfer Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:28 PM
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22. I just joined DU b/c I'm scared to death
I drop in when I need some inspiration, never thought I'd actually sign up. I don't like to put too much of my business on the web but I'm really scared. My health is starting to go and my finances aren't exactly in great shape. I don't want to depend on anyone else but I am not afraid to say that I can't do this on my own. If Coakley loses, so perhaps are my hopes for the help I know I'm going to need. Sorry to complain, just venting and hoping for encouragment.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:38 PM
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23. I was speculating corporate press and poll LIES . . . to cover a GOP steal???
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:43 PM
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24. Nobody's watching the store since Howard Dean left?
I sure as hell don't get a sense that
Tim Kaine is doing shit.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:46 PM
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25. Coakley is a terrible candidate, Brown is a rather good one, D morale is low.
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 10:46 PM by Unvanguard
Surprising, and definitely unfortunate, but not too complicated.
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geek_sabre Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 12:16 AM
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27. I think it has something to do with Curt Schilling being a Yankee fan
she is out of touch.
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