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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:02 AM
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The Red Cross Money Pit (ARC misusing donation money)
Please, please please, make your donations count. Give them to reputable Red Cross International www.irc.org rather than American Red Cross. www.irc.org/

My community raised several thousand dollars, gave it to ARC for Katrina relief. It was specified to go for Katrina relief. They ended up putting it into their slush fund "for future needs" and continued to publicize and raise more money for Katrina relief.

Here is another article about ARC.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0925-28.htm
Feb 2005
With hurricane Rita now making news, it's time for Americans to take a more disciplined look at their tremendous generosity. As of last week, the American Red Cross reported that it had raised $826 million in private funds for Hurricane Katrina victims. The Chronicle of Philanthropy has the total figure at more than $1.2 billion for all relief groups reporting. So the Red Cross received about 70% of all giving.

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This skewed giving to Red Cross would be justified if the organization had to pay the cost of the 300,000 people it has sheltered. But FEMA and the affected states are reimbursing the Red Cross under preexisting contracts for emergency shelter and other disaster services. The existence of these contracts is no secret to anyone but the American public. The Red Cross carefully says it functions only by the grace of the American people — but "people" includes government, national and local. What we've now come to expect from a major disaster is a Red Cross media blitz.

The national Red Cross reports it spent $111 million last year on fundraising alone. And it's hard to escape the organization's warning of Armageddon if you don't call in a credit card number or send a check or donate blood (which it resells to the tune of more than $1.5 billion annually, part of its $3 billion in income).
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The Red Cross brand is platinum. Its fundraising vastly outruns its programs because it does very little or nothing to rescue survivors, provide direct medical care or rebuild houses. After 9/11, the Red Cross collected more than $1 billion, a record in philanthropic fundraising after a disaster. But the Red Cross could do little more than trace missing people, help a handful of people in shelters and provide food to firefighters, police, paramedics and evacuation crews during that catastrophe.

When New York Atty. Gen. Eliot Spitzer asked for documentation of 9/11 expenditures, the Red Cross' response was that it is federally chartered and not answerable to state government regulators. The clamor rose, however, when the media began dissecting Red Cross activities in the 9/11 aftermath. This resulted in the resignation of the organization's president and chief executive, Dr. Bernadine Healy, and the appointment of ex-Sen. George Mitchell (D-Maine) to oversee its 9/11 fund and help clean up its image. Funds were then pushed out the door — including millions to New York limo drivers who said they lost income after 9/11, and to upscale residents of lower Manhattan to help pay their utility bills.

The organization also ran into trouble after the 1989 San Francisco Bay Area earthquake when it was revealed that it planned to spend only a fraction of the millions of dollars it had collected in the area damaged by the earthquake. When the Bay Area's mayors found out, they insisted that these funds be spent on housing, homeless shelters and health clinics. The Red Cross had to waive, for one time only, its long-standing policy against funding non-Red Cross groups. (Spare change — and there will be a lot of it this time — stays in a Red Cross "national disaster account." This allows it to spend funds donated for one purpose on another.)

The Red Cross expects to raise more than $2 billion before Hurricane Katrina-related giving subsides. If it takes care of 300,000 people, that's $7,000 per victim. I doubt each victim under Red Cross care will see more than a doughnut, an interview with a social worker and a short-term voucher for a cheap motel, with a few miscellaneous items such as clothes and cooking pots thrown in. The Red Cross' 3 million unpaid volunteers, 156,000 of whom it says are deployed in Hurricane Katrina, are salt-of-the-Earth Americans. But asking where all the privately collected money will go and how much Red Cross is billing FEMA and the affected states is a legitimate question — even if posed by the president of a small relief agency.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:10 AM
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1. "donate to ARC fast and easy" gets lots of views, recs. Reality of ARC doesn't.
oh well, it's only money.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:14 AM
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2. Also, don't donate to Goodwill.
I donated my old, stained, 70s era floral print couch with the cigarette smell to Goodwill on 9/12, and apparently not even a single 9-11 victim ended up buying it.

Fucking scammers.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:21 AM
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3. Did they tell you it would? Were they gathering couchs specifically for that purpose?
And then did they not do it? That is what ARC does. If Goodwill did not call for couch donations for 9-11 victims then sell them and keep the money for themselves, there is no comparison.

fail
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:28 AM
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7. Yes.
They was on the TV lookitybox telling that what with the 9-11 (God bless America) they was in desperate need of couches, davenports, loveseats, and Freedom Footresters.

And I, like tens of millions of other patriotic Americans, donated our precious furniture boat only a few hundred pieces ended up going to 9-11 victims, thanks to those slimy greedy bastards at Goodwill. Hell, most of it went to flood victims, or fire victims, or just regular emergency victims. Lousy ingrates.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:19 AM
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21. Ah. eom
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:23 AM
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4. Save The Children, 92% of monies go to the programs!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:25 AM
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5. Thank you
They have been crooked long before Katrina. Long before Elizabeth Dole, even. They are nothing but a brand name, and as you may find out later in this thread - unassailable. Oh no! The Holy and Sacred Red Cross! How dare you? :eyes:

So thank you. There are many, many other, better, more efficient, honest, and less top-heavy aid organizations out there. It's time to put some dings in the Red Cross Myth.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:27 AM
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6. I did donate to the Red Cross
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 01:28 AM by LatteLibertine
however my largest donations went to Artists for Peace and Justice, as well as Yele Haiti. I would have donated to more but I can't afford it.

BTW Artists for Justice and Peace consume ZERO amount of your donations for overhead.

http://www.artistsforpeaceandjustice.com/

At least, according to Olivia Wilde while she was appearing on Rachel Maddow's show tonight.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 05:36 AM
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13. Check this out
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7478086

I hope they clear this up. I'm pretty cynical already, I don't know how much farther I can go.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:28 AM
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8. I have my stories about the ARC
:-)

Why I also will donate to the ICRC... they will also use it LONG TERM... for programs in Haiti.

One of the problems with the ARC is ahem the overhead.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:54 AM
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9. I found numerous horror stories re- ARC while researching Katrina. And #90999 --
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 01:57 AM by snot
tell everyone! -- those donations go to ARC!

Edited to add: PLUS I thought I heard on the radio this a.m. that the Obama Admin. was urging people to donate via 90999!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 02:28 AM
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10. Crap. I just donated $100 to the Red Cross link off whitehouse.gov. Guess which one that is.
The bad one.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 05:31 AM
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11. Your links are wrong
The link posted for the Int'l Red Cross takes you to the Internet Relay Chat dot org website.

I think the link you meant to post is www.icrc.org

There is also this one: www.ifrc.org

And: www.redcross.int



www.redcross.org takes you to the American Red Cross



Thanks for the article, though. A friend sent me an email complaining about the salary of the ARC's director. I thought he was barking up the wrong tree but you've given me something to look in to.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:22 AM
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22. www.icrc.org is the right link. Thank you. I missed a letterthere
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 05:36 AM
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12. I don't give money to any Red Cross
Sorry
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 06:20 AM
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14. Overpaid CEO.
ARC President/CEO: $565,000/yr. according to Charity Navigator. Sheesh.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 07:14 AM
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15. I have not been a fan of the American Red Cross since Donut Dollies came to my firebase
selling (you heard that correctly) donuts. Selling donuts to GIs in the middle of a fucking combat zone...
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 08:32 AM
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17. For a former coworker, they were charging for Kool-Aid in Vietnam
Think he'd just stumbled out of a jungle and thought it was free...he swore then he'd never give them a penny.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 07:45 AM
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16. I would donate blood to the American Red Cross instead of money.
I learned more than I wanted to about the Red Cross during the bush years. It is not a direct charity for any particular disaster. I also do not like them because they would not accept donations from the Dixie Chicks which makes them in my eyes, a political organization.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 10:44 AM
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18. K & R
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 10:48 AM
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19. MSF, Doctors Without Borders is a better one.
They lost their hospital there and have had to bring in inflatable ORs and such. They need money to get supplies there and help the injured and the ill.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 10:55 AM
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20. Kick & UnRec. RedCross overhead is 9%.
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:02 AM by Statistical
Which is very low even among other well run charities.

If you give $1.00 then $0.91 ends up going to someone who needs help.
By the way the International Red Cross overhead is ..... DRUMROLLL ...... 15% almost double the ARC.


It is dumb shit like this that gives people and excuse not to donate. I gladly gave $100 to ARC via payroll because my company will match it. Thats $200 to victims (well $182 = 91%). I am not a micromanager that feel unless I get to decide exactly how, when and where it will be used that it is useless.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:24 AM
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23. link proving that? I gave you a link showing otherwise. I want my money to make a difference.
calling for people to beware of it not doing so is "dumb shit"? Ah. Please show me where 91% goes to someone who needs help and IRC overhead is "almost double ARC". Seriously, I would like to see.
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