So Carl A$$hole on CNN

[malaise]

I get the impression that you believe that funeral rites are only funeral rites if they follow your religious beliefs. If Haitians want to practice voodoo or any African religion, that is their right.
Listen moron, lots of Caribbean people sprinkle 'spirits' on their dead the same way you and your religions sprinkle water and claim that it is 'sanctified'. I laugh at that as well but don''t go on air to discuss it. Now fugg off and let people bury their own dead the way they choose. You should have stayed in DR. Go fuck yourself Carl. Who are you to judge anyone.

[MoJoWorkin]

1. If that was the same guy I saw earlier, I agree. WHY say those things.

Maybe he is a Pat Robertson mole.

A bit of criticism of the media.....

I am getting really tired of some of the comments from the "reporters" who are there. They are so self-promoting. I hate the way some of them are sticking microphones in the faces of the ones who are trapped and trying to be rescued. I know I wouldn't want a microphone stuck in my face while rescuers were trying to get mounds of concrete off my body.

"Reporters" complain of the smell--what do they expect? It is horrific, beyond any comparison to anything. Also, it IS terrible that they have to bury in mass graves, but they must think of the living and the disease that will spread in that kind of heat. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.

"Reporters" stand at the airport, or in the one other location that seems safe, and say "I don't see anything here." How do they know what is going on elsewhere?

CNN has repeated Sanjay's bandaging of the baby over and over, milking it for all it is worth. I was touched by it the first time, but geez. They have made it into more self-promotion. Makes me wonder how much Sanjay has helped after the cameras go cold. I hope I am wrong on that.

Anderson Cooper appeared to be losing it and needs some rest and has seen too much-- as he has actually ventured out a lot more than Kerry Sanders or Brian Williams, who have been airport huggers. Oh yes, why did they need to bring the TODAY show with a weatherman there? Since they appear to have not left the airport there, they might as well have stayed home and done their show from a local tarmac.

Rescuers are doing the best they can considering every possible roadblock by mother nature has been put in their way. It is awful to see, but I will blame NO ONE for trying to help in this impossible of situations.

Reporters---if they care, will drop that microphone and camera and HELP,too.

[Dr.Phool]

2. How would they know if it was raining or not?

If Al Rokkor wasn't there to tell them?

[MoJoWorkin]

3. Good point.

[malaise]

4. Gupta is in an invidious position because he's a doctor

Still M$Greedia never fails to make it about them. In fairness to Cooper and the other CNN people, they are displaying a level of humanity that is touching.

GENBC is the worst of those I've watched.

And yes it's the same one.

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[MoJoWorkin]

11. Agreed the CNN people have been much better, but they still

are out for ratings and what ever will make for the best story for THEM. Gupta stays while others leave. I appreciate that. Other posters say he has the best bodyguards with him. I don't know.
We don't know the whole story. If they didn't make the story about THEM, I would trust them more.

I am afraid I am just jaded where the media is concerned.

[madokie]

5. You know its going to be a big deal to some

when I die because I want my body cremated with the ashes put in a hole with a tree, of the planters choosing, planted there. I want a place for my spirit to come too to rest. My family are all pseudo religious and think since I was baptized when I was around 10 or so years old that I'd want to be buried like the rest of them. I don't believe in heaven or hell and for the life of me can't understand why anyone would, but I feel each to his/her own. My spirit is many more years older than my body is and I've felt this my whole life, Back long before I was supposedly saved and dunked in the cold ass spring creek in feburary cleansing me of some sins or something, nice day I remember but colder than shit. One of the others who was baptized with me came down with pneumonia which set the wheels to rolling that eventually led me to not believe any of that. I just wish I could be around to watch the commotion, heck come to think of it maybe I will...:-)

[malaise]

8. Thankfully in our family we defer

to written instructions. Even mom had a living will. I'll be cremated.

[Are_grits_groceries]

6. In SC, I grew up with a form of voodoo.

It is more prevalent down near Beaufort. I learned a lot about it from tales told by relatives and other stories passed on by people around the farm.

I never made fun of it, and I respected it. I know that's because of my parents and other relatives. When we were told about the customs and other things, they NEVER made fun of it. Nobody sat around a table and made light of it. I decided if these folks took it seriously, I better respect it too.

I remember going to a very old cemetery where there were some graves that slaves had been buried in. Somebody had left some money on the graves. My cousin didn't think anything of it, and picked it up. I thought my aunt was going to fall out and have a heart attack. She said to put it back and never do that again. It was disrespectful.

Every culture is different. Why that man is an expert on burial in Haiti is beyond me.

[malaise]

9. Religious arrogance just pisses me off

since it's all mumbo jumbo to me. Yesterday we went to the funeral of a good friend. I pointed out to hubby that while it's important to say goodbye to our friends, these preachers use funeral services as recruiting centers for many people who are terrified of death.

[Mimosa]

7. Sanjay Gupta is a HERO!

Sanjay Gupta is a hero. When the UN directed a medical team to leave an area -and take medical supplies, etc with them- for no real reason, Dr. Gupta demanded they leave a tent and he and his CNN support team stayed and provided medical help to the stranded patients. The story and video are at link. I highly recommend that you all watch it!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/16/haiti.abandoned.patients/index.html?hpt=T1


The U.N. has consistently over years proven they are ineffectual.

Excerpt:

Port-au-Prince, Haiti (CNN) -- Critically injured earthquake victims watched doctors and nurses walk away from a field hospital Friday night after United Nations officials ordered a medical team to evacuate the area out of security concerns.

There have been scattered reports of violence throughout the capital.

The only doctor left at the U.N. field hospital was CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta, who assessed the needs of the 25 patients but with no supplies, there was little he could do.

Gupta monitored patients' vital signs, administered painkillers and continued intravenous drips. He stabilized three new patients in critical condition.

And more people, some in critical condition, were trickling in late Friday.

"I've never been in a situation like this. This is quite ridiculous," Gupta said.
Search and rescue must trump security. ... They need to man up and get back in there.
--Retired Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honoré

With a dearth of medical facilities in Haiti's capital, ambulances had no where else to take patients, some who had suffered severe trauma -- amputations and head injuries -- under the rubble. Others had suffered a great deal of blood loss, but there were no blood supplies left at the clinic.

Gupta feared that some would not survive the night.

He and his television crew stayed with the injured all night, long after the medical team had left, long after the generators gave out and the tents turned pitch black.

At 3:45 a.m., he posted a message on Twitter: "pulling all nighter at haiti field hosp. lots of work, but all patients stable. turned my crew into a crack med team tonight."

He said the Belgian doctors did not want to leave their patients behind but were ordered out by the United Nations, which sent buses to transport them.

"There is concern about riots not far from here -- and this is part of the problem," Gupta said.
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"What is striking to me as a physician is that patients who just had surgery, patients who are critically ill are essentially being left here, nobody to care for them," Gupta said.

Sandra Pierre, a Haitian who has been helping at the makeshift hospital, said the medical staff took most of the supplies with them.

"All the doctors, all the nurses are gone," she said. "They are expected to be back tomorrow. They had no plan on leaving tonight. It was an order that came suddenly."

She told Gupta, "It's just you."

A 7.0 magnitude earthquake flattened Haiti's capital city Tuesday afternoon, affecting as many as 3 million people. Tens of thousands of people are feared dead.

Haiti, the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere, lacked adequate medical resources even before the disaster and has been struggling this week to tend to huge numbers of injured. The U.N. clinic, set up under several tents, was a godsend to the few who were lucky to have been brought there.

It was not known whether the medical team would return in daylight.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, who led relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina in 2005, said the evacuation of the clinic's medical staff was unforgivable.

"Search and rescue must trump security," Honoré said. "I've never seen anything like this before in my life. They need to man up and get back in there."

Honoré drew parallels between the tragedy in New Orleans and in Port-au-Prince. But even in the chaos of Katrina, he said, he had never seen medical staff walk away.

"I find this astonishing these doctors left," he said. "People are scared of the poor."

[malaise]

10. Yep that was heroic but he signed that oath

so it shouldn't be repeated on CNN every five minutes. He's only doing what he promised to do.

It's difficult to judge the UN people this time around - they have been traumatized here - many of their own are dead or missing.

[MoJoWorkin]

12. Yes, we don't know the whole story---only what CNN is telling us.

[malaise]

13. Right

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