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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:15 PM
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Curios - are Massachusetts' voting machines set up so a true recount can be held?
I have little time and will check back later.
Just curious if Mass. election can be stolen or is recount a viable possibility?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:16 PM
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1. Considering the state political structure is dominated by Democrats,
if there's any funny business you can bet your boots there will be a fight.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:24 PM
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3. in 2006 13 congressional seats were contested by the Democrats who lost them.
In each case the Democratic congressperson did not believe the count was accurate. THE DEMocratic congress decided to "leave it alone".
in other words, bullshit.
Obama has left all the same Bush appointees in charge of the EAC, even though he could appoint anyone he wants. In Elections, Democrats do not fight like hell. Had they, we would never had had Bush in office at all. Especially not in 2004. All they needed to do was count the ballots in one state. Any one of several states; Ohio, New Mexico....
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 08:32 PM
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4. This was in Massachusetts?
Since local BOEs, subject to regs by the state's secretary of state, is in charge of elections that's where the action is going to be.

That's the point. What happens in Idaho or Iowa or Florida isn't very relevant.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 08:51 PM
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5. no, but this was in a congress dominated by democrats.
I HOPE you're right, but Democrats just dont seem to want to look at election fraud at all. If they did, Bush would not have taken office in 2004. They ignored it over and over. not in Massachusetts, but Kerry, for example is from Mass and he handed the WH to Bush even as we all waited for him to count the votes. That's what I mean.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:20 PM
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2. They have paper ballots. The counting will all be done by Diebold optiscanners.
The answer to your question depends on what a judge decides, i'm pretty sure. Recounts tend to be done on THE SAME equipment, i.e. Diebold optiscans, so that helps nothing. I believe it would have to go to court and a judge would have to ORDER a hand recount for a legitimate recount to be done.. There are people here who know more than me, but this has been a problem over and over in US elections. Recounts mean they run the ballots through the same machines. Then people go to court and ask for a hand count, and the judges say there is not enough evidence to show there was tampering. and that is that.
IF the candidate is wise enough to bring in election protection experts from the get go, we might hear better news.
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