When did America become a goddamn homeland?

[douglas9]

Your Bass Boats and Queer Marriage is a great article about the American "middle class", whatever the hell that is.

I am an old working class person, a human being. I had working class parents and grandparents. It is all I ever was or wanted to be. I remember an old definition of the "middle class", way back in the mid 60's, my high school days. It all had to do with income, of course. Not sure what the numbers were back then, but it was above working class pay, for sure.

I had four years in the Marines and a tour in Vietnam. Then, I went back to being a working class guy. Got married, bought a house, had and lost a child, then lost the wife to brain cancer.

Now, at 62, I am permanently disabled and alone. But, I had a pretty decent life. I am still working class, goddamn it all. I am so damn sick of what has become of this country we now call a "homeland". What the hell? When did America become a goddamn "homeland"? Yeah, I know, W. Shrub and "Five Deferments" Cheney. They gave us that goddamn Nazi Germany/Soviet Union term for what used to be America.

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/01/when-did-america.html

[Hannah Bell]

1. +100. it was so surreal when they started talking about our "homeland". nazi language, & i'm sure

they knew it.

[tavalon]

2. I remember commenting at the time that

if they were going to be so damn blatant, they might as well call it the Fatherland.

[lunatica]

3. They probably wanted to but it didn't pass committee

Another term I hate is First Responders. What is that?

[vadawg]

4. it means the first people who respond to an incident, ie the local fire, rescue and cops

its actually a good term...

[Twist_U_Up]

7. huh? a good term ? I think not

Homeland
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For other uses, see Homeland (disambiguation).
A homeland (rel. country of origin and native land) is the concept of the place (cultural geography) to which an ethnic group holds a long history and a deep cultural association with —the country in which a particular national identity began. As a common noun, it simply connotes the country of one's origin. When used as a proper noun, the word, as well as its cognates in other languages (ie. Heimatland in German) often have ethnic nationalist connotations: Fatherland, Motherland, Mother country, each having some distinct interpretation according to nationality or historical usage.

Various meanings
In Arabic, homeland is the place of one's nation which long heritage and history, that place one accept to offer his life sole and for its freedom.
In German, homeland is translated as "Heimatland", and this was a term used by the Nazis to refer to the more common German term "Vaterland" ("Fatherland"). It was also the name of a strongly pro-Nazi magazine edited by Wilhelm Weiss during the rise of the Nazi party in Germany.
The Soviet Union created homelands for some minorities in the 1920s, including the Volga German ASSR and the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. In the case of the Volga German ASSR, these homelands were later abolished and their inhabitants deported to either Siberia or the Kazakh SSR.
In the United States, the Department of Homeland Security was created soon after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, as a means to centralize response to various threats. The term is rarely used by common United States citizens to refer to their country, which made the chosen name sound odd to many.<1> In a June 2002 column, Republican consultant and speechwriter Peggy Noonan expressed the hope that the Bush administration would change the name of the department, writing that, "The name Homeland Security grates on a lot of people, understandably. Homeland isn't really an American word, it's not something we used to say or say now".<2>
In the apartheid era in South Africa, the concept was given a different meaning. The white government had designated approximately 13% of its territory for black tribal settlement. Whites and other non-blacks were restricted from owning land or settling in those areas. After 1948 they were gradually granted an increasing level of "home-rule". From 1976 several of these regions were granted independence. Four of them were declared independent nations by

[Tesha]

19. (I think vadawg was talking about "first responder")

I agree that's a pretty good term. In our city, the "first responders" are
the Fire Companies. In other places, the police or even dedicated paramedics.
But "first responder" is a nice term that encompasses any of those folks.

Tesha

[lunatica]

8. I know what it means but I hate the term

It's a Bushian simplistic term that I hate simply because it's simplistic. I think using a term like 'Initial responders' is far better because saying 'First responders' somehow conjures up a series of responders until you get to 'Last responders'. I'm just biased against Bush and his dumbed down use of the the rich language I love. It's only served to dumb Americans down.

[hootinholler]

23. First responder has been in use in emergency services for a long time

Well before I went through training in 1989-ish.

-Hoot

[Ken Burch]

82. I think the "Last Responders" would be the team from the morgue.

n/t.

[bertman]

83. Nice one, Ken Burch. Nice one.

:rofl: :rofl:

[WinkyDink]

71. This is not remotely the reason. It is a post-9/11 "Us vs. the World" term.

[Tesha]

18. I actually think the South African model is closer to the truth.

During the apartheid era, the "homelands" were where they kept all
the "colored" folks so the white elites didn't have to see them or be
bothered by them.

Here in the modern American "homeland", that's how the elites feel
about those of us who have to work for a living. As long as we stay
quiet out in the homeland(s), they won't need to use the dogs, the
water cannon, the tear gas, or what-have-you.

Tesha

[leveymg]

40. You're right - the origin of the term "homeland" is SA. The first use here was the Journal of

Homeland Security, a publication put out by the ANSER Institute, a right-wing defense and intelligence think tank in Arlington, VA that popped up the late 1990s. It's now tied in with the Homeland Security Studies and Analysis Institute, a publicly-funded center run by DHS. That's what I came up with when I looked into the question a few years ago.

[Hannah Bell]

48. nazi.

In German, homeland is translated as "Heimatland", and this was a term used by the Nazis to refer to the more common German term "Vaterland" ("Fatherland"). It was also the name of a strongly pro-Nazi magazine edited by Wilhelm Weiss during the rise of the Nazi party in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland


Next day, with lean, fanatical Minister of Interior Wilhelm Frick at the throttle, the Hitler juggernaut moved to squash flat what remained of the German Socialist Party, most of whose leaders had already fled the Reich. Long before Chancellor Hitler came to power, Nazi Frick as Minister of Culture and Interior in Thuringia made every schoolchild in that State kneel down every day and pray "Oh God. I believe Thou punishest the traitor and blessest the Liberator of our Homeland. Free us from deceit and treason!" Last week Dr. Frick denounced the entire Socialist Party as "treasonable . . . subversive and inimical to the State and people."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,745736,00.html

7/1933 TIME


http://www.google.com/search?q=homeland+hitler&oi=navquery_searchbox&sa=X&as_sitesearch=time.com&hl=en

[Igel]

55. Perhaps in US politics.

The term's a lot older than that. Historical linguists in the late 1800s were talking about "homelands"--never for the US. For that we had the term "domestic".

"Department of Domestic Security" sounds so much better, don't you think.

I do have to note that the Wiki article seems to leave out all other sorts of uses, focusing just on the negative ones. Or that some terms that meant "motherland" or "homeland" or "fatherland" are fairly neutral. It's always amusing when I see them translated as they could be: So Russian only have "motherland" ("fatherland" seems reserved for slightly different uses, but exists); Spanish only has "fatherland"--one doesn't have a country, one has a "patria" with "pater" being "father". Just as one who is patriotic is loyal to the fatherland. Of course, that falls for the etymological fallacy to some extent, but that suits this thread to a T.

[Igel]

54. Except your terminology is off.

"Coloreds" weren't "blacks", by definition. Mixed race, South Asian, or something else. Just not white and not black. Only blacks could be "Africans" and only "Africans" had "homelands."

[tom_paine]

29. It was that and so much more, Hannah,all slipped in during that time period of maximum shock

How about the idea that the Constitution only applied to "citizens", not all people.

That one flipped around so fast, even faster than the Homeland/Fatherland thing, I still have whiplash. It was like the Ghost of Dred Scot sprung out of a jack-in-the-box.

It was my own first stirrings awake of barely seeing the edges of "The Shock Doctrine".

I am sure that the period following 9/11 and the anthrax false flag that many other "shock doctrine lightning changes" also took place if we think about it

That period, 9/12/2001 to 2005, was probably the biggest American Social Movement since the New Deal, of course it will never be advertised as such. The Bushies twisted us into a monstrous pretzel. They were very open and lacking subtlety because they knew they could get away with it due to the shock of everyone erasing our previous programming, so to speak.

Of course, to those of us who understood what was going on, tried to resist the shocks, and preserved and kept from getting wiped away/erased, some of that "post WWII American pre-neolibs & neoconservs" outlook, it looked like the beginnings of a 1950s dystopian sci-fi novel.

Then when Bushler said, "Go shopping," after the tragedy. Another upside-down moment, first of literally thousands to come, big and small.

Interesting times, like that old Chinese curse.

[Hannah Bell]

79. yes, there were a lot of things that happened during that time, & unfortunately,

a lot of people bought into it.

[defendandprotect]

76. GOP began with the "Nazi" propaganda way back in Nixon White House where ...

they were studying Nazi propaganda films ---

One of Nixon's speeches repeated "peace" and "dream" something like 81 times!!

We didn't so much defeat the Nazis as move them into America!!

See: Operation Paperclip


They were used to found the CIA -- and funneled into the FBI -- and Nasa and

other agencies.




PS: Bush I and II on the other hand had a family supporting fascism in Germany!

[DissedByBush]

97. Department of Homeland Security

That does sound goofy.

Security is right, that's what this is about.

Department? Come on, we have a bunch of bureaucrats sitting in meetings and on committees making decisions. That's it, we'll use "committee" instead since that's where the action is.

Homeland? The author is right, it's BS. We need a different word. We're defending the United States. But that's a mouthful, shorten it to "state." That sounds right.

So the more appropriate title is the Committee for State Security.

For kicks we'll translate that to Russian: "Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti"

Anyone recognize the first letters of the words put together?

Appropriate.

[Twist_U_Up]

5. Probably because the nazis were never defeated

They just moved
http://www.iwilltryit.com/bushnazi1.htm

[librechik]

37. +1

And they achieved supreme power in 2000. So to speak.

I wonder when they'll give it up? Oh, right. they never leave willingly and they cheat. Like convincing most Americans that they aren't Nazis, bu rather Americans so patriotic they make YOU look like a traitor. If they can. And they own the "Librul Media" so they do.

[liberation]

50. 2000?

I think 1980 and the Reagan "revolution" is more like it.

[omega minimo]

46. LOL

oh shit. Game over. :spray:

[lazarus]

6. actually

That name was first used in the report by the Hart (Gary, D) Rudman (Warren, R) Commission, set up by the Defense Department under Bill Clinton.

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/

[no_hypocrisy]

9. When Cheney accepted that Fatherland was too obvious.

[thunder rising]

10. I have despised that term sense Bush coined it. Very USSR like.

[BolivarianHero]

14. Stalinist...

Lenin and his rightful successor did not support this shit.

[heliarc]

53. Thank you...

because there is a lot of idiotic revisionism that seems to suggest that Communism is a Stalinist monolith. The original Marx writings are "Internationalist" and despise the nation state as a concept to begin with.

[Igel]

56. So much for happiness in the homeland.

Who knew that * was into songwriting for Paul and Linda McCartney in 1975.

My Heart Cries Out For Love
And All That Goes With Loving
Love In Song - Love In Song
My, You're So Fine
When Love Is Mine
I Can't Go Wrong,
Love In Song - Love In Song
I Can See The Places That
We Used To Go To Now
Happiness In The Homeland
Happiness In The Homeland
My Eye Cries Out
A Tear Still Born
Misunderstanding
Love In Song - Love In Song
I Can See The Places That
We Used To Go To Now
Happiness In The Homeland
Happiness In The Homeland
My, You're So Fine
When Love Is Mine
I Can't Go Wrong,
Love In Song - Love In Song - Love In Song.

[lazer47]

11. There is nothing "middle class" that you are, you are a Marine and a vietnam

Vet,, that is in no way middle of anything,, until the day you die you will always be first a Marine and a Vietnam Vet.. that is not in the middle of anything, that is a special breed, Welcome home brother

[bertman]

90. Marine and Vietnam vet BEFORE human being and American. Really, lazer47?

[lazer47]

101. Read what I said next time before you bayonet my old ass,,,

[bertman]

102. ". . . you will always be first a Marine and a Vietnam vet".

I'm probably too damn old and slow to bayonet anybody. Besides, I would NEVER bayonet a fellow Vietnam vet (even if he is a Marine). It just sounded to me like the old Semper Fi indoctrination might have clouded your brain for a moment while you were typing.



:patriot:

Peace!!

[unhappycamper]

12. Better late than never.

Welcome home, Brother.

[Enthusiast]

13. Hey, douglas9

Very sorry for the many unfortunate things you've had to weather. I share your dislike of the Homeland term. It smacks of the fascism of Nazi Germany.

[Puglover]

15. THANKYOU!

Die Heimat. Everytime I hear it I am creeped out.

[blogslut]

16. The concept of a Dept. of Homeland Security

...was first introduced via the Hart-Ruddman report:

http://books.google.com/books?id=igqMIP7OjrAC&lpg=PA126&ots=AspRPPN3Uy&dq=lies%20and%20the%20lying%20liars%20homeland%20security&pg=PA126#v=onepage&q=&f=false

[Davis_X_Machina]

33. You're wasting your time, but you're right....

...on DU once a theory takes hold, it's immune to facts.

[Mari333]

17. hugs to you

Im almost your age and had husbands and a child also pass on during this tenure as a US citizen. When I see the word Homeland it conjures up images of the SS in jackboots. stupid PR to keep the masses braying in fear, Der Fatherland, who will protect us by smashing our Bill of Rights under their boots.
peace.

[TxRider]

20. Technically speaking

It became a homeland when most of the population was born here instead of being immigrants, and U.S. culture was embraced by generation born here rather than the culture of where their families came from.

Great grandparents or their parents may have immigrated, but any culture or feeling that their country of origin was "the homeland" died with them.

The U.S. is my homeland, and would be if I immigrated to somewhere else for as long as I live.

[invictus]

21. K&R

[Golden Raisin]

22. Very unnerving term and full of

disturbing Nazi/Fascist overtones. And although you may not be youthful, you aren't "old" at 62.

[Subdivisions]

24. It's hard to break up a concept like "America" without an Orwellian moniker like "Homeland". n/t

[ensho]

25. the neo cons did it

every time I hear or read the word 'homeland', I think nazi.

[Davis_X_Machina]

32. Gary Hart (D-CO ret.) and Warren Rudman (R-NH ret.) did it...

..and Bush's White House fought the legislation creating DHS tooth and nail, until passage looked inevitable, then they flipped.

[xchrom]

26. Recommend-- I too hate the term. Nt

[diane in sf]

27. "homeland" sounds so Nazi--I remember bush using it after 9.11, sounded so creepy

[highplainsdem]

28. K&R. I hate that term, too.

[kenny blankenship]

30. The moment it became an overt military empire

The center of an empire is actually its periphery, where the push to expand frontiers is hot and bleeding. But to compensate for its hidden, de-centered nature, it starts to call the country which it started from and where its capital stands "the Homeland", to simulate a respect for it that it does not have.

[harun]

31. +1, and the neo-con's and their Corporate Media enables did it.

I hate the term as well, and have from the first time I heard it.

[RB TexLa]

34. My "homeland" is Ireland. But many don't want people to think like that.

Remember right after 9/11 people were saying everyone should call themselves "american" and not Mexican-americans or Irish-americans or so on and so on. And President Obama is as guilty of it as well saying there is only one America.

[TxRider]

38. +1 This is my homeland

Just like Germany was great grandmothers homeland.

I was born here, as were my parents, my grandparents, and most of my great grand parents and their parents.

Why would it be that only Americans cannot call their country their homeland?

[RB TexLa]

39. You are free to call it what you want. I was born here too but I am Irish in america not

Irish-american or american. And it is not my homeland. And there are mutiple "americas."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

35. Obama uses it too.

:puke:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-strengthening-intelligence-and-aviation-security

[hunter]

36. I don't need no stinking homeland.

My rights, my freedoms, my liberty, and my humanity are what I hold dear. We are all brothers and sisters wherever we are born, wherever we may live.

[earth mom]

41. I hate the word "homeland" with a passion! Why the hell is anyone still using that disgusting word?!

:puke:

[winyanstaz]

42. Yup...it bothered me then and it bothers me now...

That is such a fascist nazi term......it makes me sick.
I am sad though to hear of your losses with regards to your family. I know how that goes. I lost my husband a little over three years ago and I know it is a big life change.
Best of luck in your future :)

[newtothegame]

43. When did non-regular DU'ers become "disruptors? "

We're no better with the creepy terms.

[Individualist]

44. I've detested the term since the Chimperor started it, and I detest the continuation of it.

[omega minimo]

45. When Ronald "Can't Complete A Sentence" Reagan became a "Great Communicator"

If you'll buy that -- on top of the hostage release DURING his inauguration -- you'll buy anything. The propaganda snowball has been rolling ever since.

[vanboggie]

47. I HATE that Nazi terminology

I knew it was the beginning of the end when the Chimp 'n Cheney trotted out that word. I think it was about the time they started building the Halliburton Happy Camps :(

[tango-tee]

95. I'm from Germany

and with our history, when I heard the term "homeland" used for the first time during the Bush/Cheney regime, it gave me chills and it still does so to this day. I immediately thought of "Vaterland" as it was used during the Third Reich.

[mudplanet]

49. "Homeland security" should accurately be a posse of Sioux lawyers

litigating to expatriate 150 million Europeans.

[Djarun]

61. I second that one

But what about all of us 1/2 breed's or two spirits? Swiss/German/Blackfoot here. The only reason I have the Swiss/German heritage is because they fled Nazi Germany and surrounding area, leaving everything behind.

[sce56]

51. It all depends on what part of the family you speak from!

First off I hate that Nazi talk from those that gave us the JFK hit (Coup d'état), the Bush Appointment via the 5 clowns on the SCOTUS that selected Bush to be president over Gore.

But for me personally the homeland was first settled by ancestors on my fathers maternal side during the ice age crossing from Siberia as proven by the National Geographic Genome project! My Fathers paternal side came in the 1700's back when Spain claimed the Western Americas as their own prior to the Mexican revolution and subsequent theft by the Monroe doctrine and war with Mexico.

But to be sure those that run things behind the curtains use Nazi talk after all they were supporters of Hitler
As a former Marine the Butler name should be familiar I for one have been to Camp Butler in Okinawa many a time.

As for the hidden history read the book talked about at this link here on DU.

[Wizard777]

52. Uuuuuuuuuh, right after the immigrants had kids?

:dunce: :shrug:

[arcadian]

57. rec

save for later

[Obamanaut]

58. "Homeland" has referred to one's native land for a very long time.

It is no worse than "faux outrage" rather than "false" or "uber protective" rather than "over" - and it is in English.

[baldguy]

59. Sept 11, 2001

[BrklynLiberal]

63. The Fascist supporting Prescott/Bush family was biding their time for decades...

[baldguy]

66. And the "terrorist" attacks gave them the opportunity...

[BrklynLiberal]

81. Precisely. Almost too convenient to have been accidental...

[gtar100]

92. Shh! Stop it. It was 15 Saudis...from Iraq...don't ask questions.

[Djarun]

60. Dub'ya did it!

I think the "homeland" that is described today for the United States was coined just after September 11, 2001 by G.W. Bush/Cheney. It is kinda funny that they would coin that phrase, bein' how they are NOT Commie/Pinko/Socialist in any way shape or form. But hey what do I know

[ddeclue]

62. Because vaterland sounds Nazi and motherland sounds Russian?

Homeland is actually English...

:eyes:

[TxRider]

64. Well normally they would call it National security but

National security was already taken by the NSA... ;)

FEMA has the federal moniker already...

Homeland was all that was left.

[Spider Jerusalem]

68. 'Fatherland' is actually the term in most European countries

and has been for a very long time...where do you think words like 'patriot' come from? 'Patria' means 'fatherland' (as in 'dulce et decorum est pro patria mori'); same word in French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian, more or less, and the Russian national anthem actually says 'fatherland', too.

[ddeclue]

72. Thanks Captain Obvious.. I lived in Germany for 7 years - I speak passable French and Spanish and

some tourist German as well.

[Spider Jerusalem]

77. Well, good for you. Most Americans don't.

[WinkyDink]

73. Germany is the Fatherland; no other European nation has referred to itself that way.

[Boojatta]

87. Maybe they wanted to become a mecca for people celebrating Father's Day.

If Mecca in Saudi Arabia can get a lot of tourists, then why not Germany?

[LuckyLib]

65. Fascist bullshit . . . Changing the name of Customs to CBP got the word border front and center.

From the website:
"US Customs and Border Protection secures the homeland by preventing the illegal entry of people and goods while facilitating legitimate travel and trade.

Customs used to be highlighted as making sure folks weren't bringing anything illegal, dangerous, or taxable into the country. Now it's ALL about keeping folks out.

[icee]

67. I don't know what happened to America. It is so alient to me now

I often think I am in a different country. I'm three years older than you. I'm growing more and more tired. Thank you for your service.

[Faryn Balyncd]

69. K & R. . . . Thanks for sharing, douglas9 . . . . . . . .

Every time I hear that word, it gives me the creeps.


:hi:





:kick:

[WinkyDink]

70. Thank you, and bless you. Yes, the Fascists gave us the moniker.

[Patchuli]

74. Damn straight!! K&R

:thumbsup:

[defendandprotect]

75. Was just reading some comments by Casey Hayden....Tom Hayden's former wife....

as they worked together during the 1960's on civil rights, etal --

New book -- The Sixties at 40 .... Leaders and Activists Remember & Look Forward

Just began working on it, but Casey Hayden says:

"Direct line from HUAC to COINTELPRO to HOMELAND SECURITY"

[MrMickeysMom]

78. It's the worst thing that they could do...

... these "marketers"... these people who think they can "brand" something like your country into something that acts like a marketing campaign.

If you repeat something often enough, it becomes "branded"... when it's really your country.

You're not alone, douglas9...

[jdp349]

80. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!

[ddeclue]

84. Home FRONT has always been the American term..

homeland is English.
fatherland is German
motherland is Russian

[sam sarrha]

85. it became a goddamn homeland when the Fuck'n Fascists took over......sold us out to the Corporations

for Campaign Contributions ..formerly known as BRIBES

[Incitatus]

86. December 12, 2000. nt

[bhikkhu]

88. Freaked me out from day one...

and neither I nor anyone in my family, or my friends or co-workers, has ever used the word except with sarcasm, mocking humor, or deliberate stupidity. I hope politicians get it some day.

[bertman]

89. I would have recommended this thread just for the title. The term Homeland Security

reeks of police state and I appreciate Charlie Ehlen's bringing our attention to it.

I also understand Charlie's objection to the term "middle class", but I disagree with it. Middle class, IMO, is mostly working class. Work comes in many forms including managerial work, research, digging ditches, painting water towers, assembling things on assembly lines, removing organs from humans and repairing them then putting them back, driving the truck that pumps out the porta-johns, operating a cash register, stocking shelves, farming, dispatching truck drivers, doing accounting work, welding, sky-diving in to fight forest fires, etc, etc.

Since I've done a few of those things in my life I feel qualified to say that anyone who thinks being a manager (on most jobs) isn't work is a bit confused or blind. It's that ignorant part that Charlie is referring to. Apparently since he hasn't done it, it doesn't qualify as work. Oh well, we all like to feel like we're superior in some way, I suppose. As a matter of fact, I think I'll pen a reply to Charlie and send it to Joe--one day when I'm not so tired from my fucking job managing a company.

Meanwhile, let's ditch that "homeland" label ASAP.

Rec.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

91. I cringe every time I hear it . n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

93. It's MY homeland, and I am not afraid to say it. I don't care what anyone thinks.

I have to laugh at the mob mentality here sometimes. Yeah! Yeah! Fuck the motherfuckers! I guarantee that some posts with agreement as their theme get here simply because someone wants to be part of the crowd.

I don't need to be part of any crowd. I was born here. I love my country even though I know it has faults.

Thank you for your service, Brother Vet. Condolences on your loss of wife and child.

For what it's worth; according to dictionary.com, "homeland" has origins that go back to 1660-70. The Palestinians consider their territory to be their homeland. Lots of others have considered the land of their birth to be their homeland and I'm not going to let a term be taken from me simply because someone I despise used it.

This is my homeland. I say it proudly.

[Goldstein1984]

94. "Homeland" is Orwellian--I don't like it.

Howard Zinn, in "A People's History of the United States," makes a good case for the "Middle Class" being invented by the well-to-do among the Founders to act as a buffer and give a critical mass a vested interest in the post-Revolutionary status quo. Inventing the Middle Class was a response to events like Shays Rebellion.

[OneBlueSky]

99. it's worse than Orwellian . . . it's Hitlerian . . .

comparable to "The Fatherland" of the Third Reich . . . I've hated it since the first time I heard it . . .

[Goldstein1984]

103. My emotional response to "Homeland Security"

is to feel oppressed.

I hate it. And there isn't much I actually hate.

[greeneyedboy]

96. THANK YOU. I could not believe Obama started using "homeland" too. WTF? n/t

[Tx4obama]

98. We need to start a petition...

and let the White House/government know that the phrase "homeland" is NOT acceptable.

Every time I hear a politician say 'homeland' the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!

The words: OUR COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE USA are acceptable!

[liberal N proud]

100. That term has aggravated me since the day bu$h first uttered it.