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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:13 AM
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What Bush Did to Haiti
If a group of dedicated scholars, attorneys, journalists, and activists had tried to generate a comprehensive list of impeachable offenses committed by George W. Bush as president, and only 35 of them had been introduced into Congress, one of the many discarded ones, in rough and overly detailed form, might have read something like this:

In his conduct while President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution "to take care that the laws be faithfully executed", has both personally and acting through his agents and subordinates, caused the United States of America to kidnap, imprison, intimidate, coerce, threaten, confine, abduct, and carry away the elected, constitutional President of Haiti, and his wife, a U.S citizen, in violation of United States statutes, to wit:

a. The President, both personally and acting through his agents and subordinates, prevented the security contractors working for Haiti's elected, constitutional government led by President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from receiving reinforcements at a time when Haiti's constitutional government was under attack. The removal of the security contractors facilitated the kidnapping of President Aristide:

b. On February 17, 2004, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell defended President Aristide as the "free and fairly elected President of Haiti." Referring to insurgents who brutally attacked police stations and other government building over the previous weeks, Secretary Powell further stated that the United States "cannot buy into a proposition that says the elected President must be forced out of office by thugs and those who do not respect law and are bringing terrible violence to the Haitian people."

c. On the afternoon of Saturday, February 28, 2004, the Steele Foundation, a U.S. company that had been providing private security services to the Haitian government, informed President Aristide that the U.S. government had asked it to withdraw all of its personnel from Haiti. The Steele Foundation also told President Aristide that the U.S. government was blocking the Steele Foundation's efforts to bring to Haiti additional personnel needed to protect the President. Later that day, the Steele Foundation informed President Aristide that without the additional personnel, the Foundation would not be able to protect the President or his wife.

d. The President, both personally and acting through his agents and subordinates, misrepresented the immediacy of the threat against President Aristide, and informed him that U.S. forces in the country would not help either the President or his constitutional government:

e. On February 28, members of the U.S. Foreign Service informed President Aristide that rebel forces under the command of Guy Philippe, a U.S.-trained former army and police officer, were less than 50 miles outside Haiti's capital, Port-au-Prince. The diplomats informed President Aristide that Mr. Philippe's forces would attack the next day. At the time, Mr. Philippe and his soldiers were in Cap-Haitian, at the far northern end of Haiti, and could not have reached Port-au-Prince for several days.

f. Members of the U.S. Foreign service told President Aristide that if he remained in Port-au-Prince, the United States would not provide any assistance when the expected attack by the insurgents occurred, and that they expected that the insurgents would kill him, his wife and many of his supporters.

g. That night, the U.S. Deputy Charge de Mission (DCM) in Haiti, Luis Moreno, accompanied by a contingent of U.S. troops, met with President Aristide. Moreno reiterated the expectation that an attack by the insurgents was imminent and the promise that the U.S. would not intervene to protect President Aristide or his supporters. He then informed President Aristide that if he left at that moment, the United States would provide aircraft for him to leave, but only if he provided the United States with a letter of resignation.

h. On February 28, Secretary Powell called former Representative Ron Dellums, who had been engaged as a lobbyist in Washington by the Haitian government. Secretary Powell informed Mr. Dellums that the insurgents were going to attack Port-au-Prince the next day (February 29), and that the United States would do nothing to interfere with their plans.

i. The President, acting through his agents and subordinates, forced President Aristide onto an unmarked U.S. plane that filed a false flight plan, and flew him against his will to the Central African Republic.

j. On February 25, Secretary Powell issued a threat to President Aristide, telling the press: "whether or not Aristide is able to effectively continue as President is something he will have to examine carefully in the interests of the Haitian people." On February 28, a senior State Department official told CNN that the "international community" is "putting pressure on Aristide to live up to his responsibilities and to think hard about his future," which implied more pressure for President Aristide to step down. The CNN article also reported that "privately the United States continues to distance itself from Aristide and suggests it might be time for him to step down." Timothy Carney, who was appointed by President Bush to run Iraq's Ministry of Minerals and Mines in 2003 and coordinator of Iraq reconstruction in January 2007, announced to the press that "Aristide is toast. He's gone. The only question is whether he goes out in a pine box or on an airplane." These statements contradicted the earlier statements of the Secretary of State, which recognized Aristide as the democratically elected President of Haiti and blamed the rebel groups for the violence gripping the country.

k. On February 28, White House spokesman Scott McClellan stated, "Aristide's own actions have called into question his fitness to govern Haiti. We urge him to examine his position carefully…."

l. President Aristide, at all times, publicly and privately, insisted that he would remain in office to serve out his constitutional term.

m. On February 28, President Aristide conferred with U.S. Ambassador to Haiti James Foley and DCM Luis Moreno about ways of avoiding further violence in Port-au-Prince. Early in the morning of February 29, at Mr. Moreno's request, President Aristide agreed to go with a U.S. escort to a location where he could appear on television to appeal for calm. The escort that arrived at President Aristide's house consisted of heavily armed, uniformed members of the U.S. Armed Forces traveling in a convoy. The escorts took President Aristide and his wife from his house, and instead of taking him to a television studio, took him to the Port-au-Prince airport.

n. The Steele Foundation security contractors protecting President Aristide were told to plan for a move to the U.S. Embassy where President Aristide would make a TV broadcast. Then minutes before they left President Aristide's residence, they were told they were going to the airport and that they would be leaving with him on the plane.

o. An unmarked white aircraft, with a U.S. flag, had been flown in by the U.S. government, and sat on the airport runway According to a customs declaration at a refueling stop, the aircraft was owned or operated by Technilink, and was registered in the U.S.A, registration number N145CA. Haiti's national airport was secured by U.S. soldiers. President Aristide reported that DCM Moreno forced him to sign a letter and board the plane.

p. President Aristide claims that the statement that he signed was not a resignation letter, that he did not intend to resign – that it included a conditional statement, "f I am obliged to leave in order to avoid bloodshed . . . ." The United States Government reported this letter as a resignation, to the United States public, to the United Nations and to the Organization of American States even though the Creole expert the government asked to translate it, Professor Bryant Freeman of the University of Kansas, concluded that the statement was not a resignation letter.

q. Uniformed and heavily-armed members of the U.S. armed forces boarded the plane along with President Aristide. They changed into civilian clothes after boarding. Nineteen members of the Steele Foundation security detail also boarded the plane, although they were taking direction not from President Aristide, but from officials of the United States. Also on board were President Aristide's wife, Mildred Trouillot Aristide, a U.S. citizen, and two Haitian security officials.

r. The plane left Port-au-Prince at about 6 AM on February 29. Once placed on the aircraft, President Aristide and his wife were kept incommunicado by United States military personnel, even though the plane was equipped with faxes, satellite telephones, and other means of communication. The passengers were forced to keep the shutters on the aircraft closed at all times. They were denied the right to leave the aircraft when it landed in Antigua and thereafter when it refueled.

s. The operators of the aircraft provided the Antiguan government a fraudulent customs declaration that stated there were no passengers on board, that the flight had originated in "Guantanamo Bay," and that there had been no intermediate stops. No destination was listed.

t. Neither the President nor his wife, who is a United States citizen, was told by the United States military personnel where the aircraft was going or when they would land. They were kept as prisoners on the aircraft and were only told a short time before the aircraft landed that the Central African Republic was their country of destination.

u. When the unmarked plane landed at the airport in Bangui, Central Africa Republic, it was met by French soldiers, who were based in the Republic. Officials of the Central African Republic informed President Aristide's lawyer that they were in consultation with both French and United States officials about keeping President Aristide in the country, and that they were doing it as a "favor" for those countries.

v. President Aristide was kept against his will in the Central African Republic. He was not allowed to leave his lodging on the grounds of the Presidential Palace without government permission and an escort, and he was not allowed to speak on the telephone after he made a few calls explaining what had happened to him, which Central African Republic officials called "regrettable statements. President Aristide was kept there for two weeks, until a mission led by U.S. Representative Maxine Waters flew to the country and negotiated his release with the President of the Central African Republic, Francis Bozize.

w. President Bush's kidnapping of President Aristide and his wife violated U.S. law:

x. Under 18 U.S.C. section 112, it is a criminal offense to imprison, intimidate, coerce, or threaten an "Internationally Protected Person." The statute's definition of "Internationally Protected Person" includes both President Aristide and his wife, Mildred Trouillot Aristide. The actions by President Bush and his agents and subordinates, including Secretary Powell, Ambassador Foley and DCM Moreno, included imprisonment, intimidation, coercion and threats within the statute. The statute penalizes such illegal conduct with prison sentences up to ten years. The statute confers jurisdiction for these crimes to U.S. courts, because the offenders were nationals of the United States, and were afterward found within the United States.

y. Under 18 U.S.C. section 1201, it is a criminal offense to unlawfully confine, kidnap, abduct, or carry away an "Internationally Protected Person." The statute's definition of "Internationally Protected Person" includes both President Aristide and his wife, Mildred Trouillot Aristide. The actions by President Bush and his agents and subordinates, including Secretary Powell, Ambassador Foley and DCM Moreno, included seizing, confining, kidnapping, abducting, and carrying away of both President Aristide and his wife. The statute penalizes such illegal conduct with prison sentences of up to life in prison. The statute confers jurisdiction for these crimes to U.S. courts, because the offenders were nationals of the United States, and were afterward found within the United States.

In all of these actions and decisions, President George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and Commander in Chief, and subversive of constitutional government, to the prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States. Wherefore, President George W. Bush, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:17 AM
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1. Excellent post - one question
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 07:18 AM by malaise
What was Allen Stanford's role (ponzi scheme and drug man) in the Antiguan section of that capture of Aristide?

add
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:31 AM
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3. i
don't know
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:30 AM
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2. Look, davidswanson
you're just going to have to get in the look forward spirit.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:32 AM
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4. oh damn
i forgot

can you tell the bank who has my mortgage about that too
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:35 AM
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5. Disgusting......K&R
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:44 AM
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6. more america-bashing that doesn't help the relief effort!
:P
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:08 AM
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36. You mean the George W Bush reputation rescue mission?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:45 AM
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7. And yet, there's no reason to investigate or prosecute Bush.
Thanks, Obama. I'm lovin' all this change you're bringing us. Business as usual when it comes to the former Chimp In Chief, right?

Remember: the cover up is often worse than the crime. :puke:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 07:52 AM
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8. When does a law become important? When are laws upheld?
w. President Bush's kidnapping of President Aristide and his wife violated U.S. law:


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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:07 AM
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9. When does a law become important
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 08:08 AM by 90-percent
The probability of laws being enforced are inversely proportional to the wealth and influence of the law breaker.

"America is a nation of laws, badly written and randomly enforced" - Frank Zappa

-90% Jimmy
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:30 AM
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11. Two track justice system....
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:03 AM
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33. Unfortunately,
that appears to be correct.

I am becoming very, very discouraged.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:20 AM
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10. Bush is a shit stain on the history of this Nation that will...
take decades to remove!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:46 AM
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12. Especially when make
his actions an American tradition.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:52 AM
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13. Bush is worst appointment ever
I can't imagine a worse person to co-chair the fundraising for Haiti.

Obama should be ashamed that he let Clinton convince him to appoint his friend the war criminal to this honorific post.

I urge people to contribute to Haiti despite this appalling lapse of judgment by Obama.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:43 PM
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25. you mean this OTHER appalling lapse of judgment by obama.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 05:43 PM by tomp
not only did he not prosecute bush/cheney, inc, but now he's most ironically bolstering him as someone willing and competent to "help" haiti. obama is a total dick, there's no getting around it.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:50 PM
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27. Yea he is. No getting around it. Right you are.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:01 AM
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31. Are you a lawyer? And a prosecutor?
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:02 AM
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35. ? nt
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:58 AM
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14. KandR
No end to the hell he has created...
Human misery will continue for decades...nothing can be undone.
Never will something be done.
Time marches on.


peace~
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 08:58 AM
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15. In the words of another famous American, that's just another "inconvenient truth".
Rest assured that this will never reach the American people via the corporate media. Thanks for posting this, david.

Rec.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:05 AM
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16. I'm earmarking this thread for later detailed and critical cross-checking.
I have little doubt as to its veracity, but I NEED that when I use it in "less than friendly" forums. But THANKS for this posting!
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:39 AM
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34. Oh you can take it to the bank!
Every word of this is true! My friend & I watched this unfold when it happened. referencing foreighN newspapers, etc. to fact check!
IF YOU HAD YOUR EYES OPEN AT THE TIME, & WATCHED ENOUGH DIVERSE BROADCASTS.......C-SPAN, LINK TV FREE SPEECH TV, AMY GOODMAN, BILL MOYER, BODY LANGUAGE ETC. YOU KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING!
I noticed in the millinium broadcast around the world, that the unhappiest people in the world seemed to be the Haitians!
I watched the boat people being turned away or arrested i Miami when the Cubans were allowed in.......................
I read avo bout the slaughter of the native pigs.......It's HORRIBLE!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:31 AM
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17. With the help of The International Republican Institute according to Thom Hartmann
http://www.iri.org/

Apparently the means by which Aristide was vetted, found wanting, and shown the door with the encouragement of U.S. Marines.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:18 AM
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18. on edit: That's from Max Blumenthal via Thom Hartmann
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:19 AM
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19. Aristide wasn't democratically elected...
In the 2000 presidential and parliamentary elections, President Jean-Bertrand Aristide and his Fanmi Lavalas party claimed victory with a turnout that hardly rose above 10 per cent of the voters. The opposition, as well as members of the international community, contested the results and accused the Government of manipulating them.

From: http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/minustah/bac...

Aristide's party controlled the Provisional Election Commission. It declared the official results when counting had barely even began. It ignored the constitutional requirement for run-off.

From: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16126

Aristide also was caught up in drug trafficking, cronyism, and corruption (involving a number of telecom schemes). He was, in other words, a criminal-in-charge.

Not that this makes any of Bush's crimes against Haiti somehow acceptable or less disgusting. Bush committed the crimes David is mentioning, no doubt about that, and he should be prosecuted for them. But lets not act as if Aristide was a great, popular benevolent leader...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 12:43 PM
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23. Here's some balance to your statements - I know it's Wikipedia, but it has links
to other sources.

"The OAS electoral observation mission ultimately released a critical report<1>, which contributed to the U.S. decision to suspend aid to Haiti in 2000. In the presidential elections that followed on November 26, the opposition parties boycotted the election, which partly explains the landslide victory of Jean-Bertrand Aristide. There is a dispute about the nature of the 2000 elections. Some say that the Lavalas party, Aristide and President René Préval were violating democracy (for example, refusing to hold run-offs in the senate, intimidating opponents etc.) while other commentators think that opposition - representatives of Haiti's economic elite - refused to participate in democratic elections since they knew that they would lose them. An article in the New Left Review holds, that the problem the OAS found in the legislative elections would not have had an effect on the results; the OAS itself reached the same conclusion<2>. According to Centre for International Policy the elections were Haiti's best so far.<3>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_general_election,_2000

A U.S. President or State Dept. spokesperson can say whatever they want about the election - Bush II had the best help ever in twisting.

The drug part of this is something to open up. A former leader of Panama has been living half his life in a Dade Co. FL prison - someday we will probably learn how Mr. Noriega he got on the wrong side of drugs meaning meaning how he got on the wrong side of the drug 'wars'of the U.S. He wasn't killed. Neither was Aristide. Someday we will know why. Possibly, because killing them might open investigations?

By the way, the first thoughts I had at the time about why we kidnapped Aristide, and dictated the rules of his life, related to Cuba and Castro's health and our drug 'wars' and the usual serving or non-serving of wealthy international outsiders.

Interesting, that the Honduras coup of Zelaya was said to be connected to the wishes of Telecom companies - and here we are - with claims that Aristide had deals with the or a Telecom company.

It's quite amazing to learn how certain countries and entities make claim to a country.



Do you know where there are A
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:46 PM
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29. Again, I'm not arguing that Aristide's removal from office was in any way justified...
I'm just saying that if you 'win' with only 10 percent of the vote, and international observers accuse you of fraud (and this comes from a UN website), you're not "democratically elected". I don't know a whole lot about Aristide's government, but I thought this was worth mentioning. I know a lot of Latin-American leaders get demonized by the US/the West with bogus claims, but the accusations against Aristide seem so numerous and overwhelming that it's impossible to ignore them. And remember that the fact that he supposedly "took care of his people" (according to DU) doesn't rule out any wrongdoing of his part.

I didn't know about the connection between the Honduras coup and the wishes of telecom companies, and I have been following that story extremely closely.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:48 AM
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20. K&R. Well said. //nt
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:21 AM
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21. Are you reading this, Harold Ford?
Still nice to hear Dubya's voice again?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:42 AM
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22. Brilliant! 100,000,000 recommendations!. Why? Because you put it in the context of law.
No one can miss the seriousness of this event. Because it provides the history through chronology and quotes. Because it is an excellent learning tool when people look at you when you bring this up and their entire body is a question mark. Because it provides us with ammunition to make the case.

Evidently, Secretary Clinton and President Obama declined President Aristide's request to return to his country on news of the earthquake.

Most likely, this case of law is not going to make it on to a priority list for President Obama since he invited the son of Bush I who was President when the first coup against Aristide took place and Bush II -the would-be defendant in the second coup to be an envoy for the White House. Or was that a form of penance?

The United States of Arrogance and Diplomatic Dictatorship.



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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 03:56 PM
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24. Blackwater before drinking water - by Greg Palast
New story out by Greg Palast discussing the long, dark history of the US government & CIA in Haiti -- and why either Bush should NOT be a front man for Haitian aid requests.

THE RIGHT TESTICLE OF HELL: HISTORY OF A HAITIAN HOLOCAUST
January 18, 2010 at 8:27 am

Blackwater before drinking water
by Greg Palast

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/the-right-testicle-of-hell-history-of-a-haitian-holocaust/


Chinese search and rescue teams arrived in Port au Prince within 48 hours after the earthquake. Now that the airport is controlled by the U.S. military, aid agencies and other governments trying to bring in relief are furious at being turned back.

1. Bless the president for having rescue teams in the air almost immediately. That was President Olafur Grimsson of Iceland. On Wednesday, the AP reported that the president of the United States promised, “The initial contingent of 2,000 Marines could be deployed to the quake-ravaged country within the next few days.” “In a few days,” Mr. Obama?

- snip -

4. China deployed rescuers with sniffer dogs within 48 hours. China, Mr. President. China: 8,000 miles distant. Miami: 700 miles close. U.S. bases in Puerto Rico: right there.

- snip -

7. Send in the Marines. That’s America’s response. That’s what we’re good at. The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson finally showed up after three days. With what? It was dramatically deployed – without any emergency relief supplies. It has sidewinder missiles and 19 helicopters.

- snip -

9. Gates wouldn’t send in food and water because, he said, there was no “structure … to provide security.” For Gates, appointed by Bush and allowed to hang around by Obama, it’s security first. That was his lesson from Hurricane Katrina. Blackwater before drinking water.

10. Previous U.S. presidents have acted far more swiftly in getting troops on the ground on that island. Haiti is the right half of the island of Hispaniola. It’s treated like the right testicle of Hell. The Dominican Republic the left. In 1965, when Dominicans demanded the return of Juan Bosch, their elected president, deposed by a junta, Lyndon Johnson reacted to this crisis rapidly, landing 45,000 U.S. Marines on the beaches to prevent the return of the elected president.

- snip -

Don’t blame Mother Nature for all this death and destruction. That dishonor goes to Papa Doc and Baby Doc, the Duvalier dictatorship, which looted the nation for 28 years. Papa and his Baby put an estimated 80 percent of world aid into their own pockets – with the complicity of the U.S. government happy to have the Duvaliers and their militia, Tonton Macoutes, as allies in the Cold War. (The war was easily won: the Duvaliers’ death squads murdered as many as 60,000 opponents of the regime.)

- snip -

13. In 1991, five years after the murderous Baby fled, Haitians elected a priest, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who resisted the IMF’s austerity diktats. Within months, the military, to the applause of Papa George H.W. Bush, deposed him. History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce. The farce was George W. Bush. In 2004, after the priest Aristide was re-elected president, he was kidnapped and removed again, to the applause of Baby Bush.



By all means, send American aid to Haiti to assist the quake victims -- but leave our military at home.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 05:45 PM
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26. K&R
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 06:02 PM
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28. Bravo!! This is a fascinating port and worthy of the history books.
:applause:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:52 PM
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30. k & R & B
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 06:57 AM
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32. Can someone sum up the "why" of this? Not that I'm lazy but I'm just lazy.
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ChucktownMillie Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:35 PM
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37. you forgot one
how was it that bush and cheney caused the earthquake? you KNOW that they did it.
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DelPotro Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 04:04 PM
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38. K&R
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 05:59 PM
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39. OK, so far Obama, to my knowledge is better than Bush in this area
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 06:00 PM by emsimon33
I hope that Obama does not follow Bush's foot steps in these types of foreign affair situations. Given Obama's track record in domestic affairs, I am not holding my breath!
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