Earthquake off Guatamala 6.0 just announced on MSNBC..no news yet. eom

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[KingFlorez]

1. Hopefully, it didn't cause any injuries or damage

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2. waiting for follow up on MSNBC..

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3. only news they just said ..it Hit Pacific Coast side ..thats all the info now.

gotta go out so feel free to add any additional info as it comes in.

[Don Caballero]

4. Man Made Climate Change and its effects are wreaking havoc on our planet

If any good can come of these tragedies it is a real, global approach to lowering CO2 levels precipitously. One child policies must be enacted.

[Codeine]

5. CO2 levels do not impact plate tectonics.

For fuck's sake.

[Kalyke]

9. Yes they do!

Plate tectonics and the carbon cycle are intertwined in several different ways. In many respects, it is plate tectonics that spurs on the recycling of carbon atoms.

Convergent boundaries affect the carbon cycle in two ways: through subduction and eruption.

* Subduction is the process by which continental crust slides beneath another portion of crust. The subducting crust melts and becomes magma, the material that fuels volcanic eruption. The melted crust contains carbon in the sediments and soils, thus recycling it through the mantle of the earth.
* The melted crust convecting through the mantle will eventually resurface in the form of lava during eruptions from volcanoes. These volcanoes were originally formed by tectonic forces--where there is an excess of magma below the crust due to subduction, it is forced to erupt. The process of eruption includes degassing. Degassing is where carbon dioxide is released into the atmosphere as the eruption occurs because the dissolved carbon in the magma is unstable and under pressure, and is therefore forced to leave the fluid.
* The recycling process can be seen in the diagram below. The trenches are the areas of subduction where a "slab" of crust is pulled into the earth. This crust, containing carbon, is then recycled through the mantle and later released through a ridge, either convergent or divergent.

http://dilu.bol.ucla.edu/

http://www.astronomynotes.com/solarsys/s11.htm

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/13/rising-temperatures-could-shut-down-plate-tectonics/

[ensho]

10. thanks for the info

nt

[Codeine]

12. You clearly do not understand

anything you just read. Off to high school science class with you.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. Those links show that tectonics affect carbon l;evels, not that carbon causes earthquakes

[Abq_Sarah]

50. Which explains

The 1906 Earthquake?


Seriously, the earth is in constant upheaval. Always has been, always will be.

[Cirque du So-What]

11. Carbon dioxide notwithstanding

the breakup of ice on Antarctica shifts loads in ways that haven't been seen in recent geological history.

[FedUpWithIt All]

29. Causing this...

From 2002

The team of researchers sought to find a climatic reason for the dramatic changes in Earth's gravity field observed since 1997. These changes have resulted from large redistributions of mass around the globe and are characterized by an increased bulge in Earth's equator and mass movement away from the poles - an occurrence known as oblateness, which can be thought of as the difference between a football and a soccer ball; the football has a larger radius at the equator. Their results are published in the December 6 issue of Science.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=22829

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[Cirque du So-What]

15. You just called out another DUer as a freeper

Maybe the question of who's on the wrong website will get resolved.

[Don Caballero]

16. What are you talking about?

You really think unchecked carbon pollution does not effect the amount and tenacity of earthquakes/tsunamis/tornadoes? You should look at the science, not me.

[Codeine]

17. You have no idea what you're talking about. nt

[Don Caballero]

27. Fill me in then

Carbon pollution is the number one cause of the calamities that we have seen in recent years. The ferociousness of these events has been off the charts. Unless we truly have a plan in place to limit the amount of humans on the planet, we are not long for the Earth.

[TheWraith]

33. The atmosphere... does not... affect... earthquakes.

It's that simple. Earthquakes are caused by tectonic plates rubbing up against each other. You could have zero CO2 in the air or ten times as much, and the tectonic plates would still be rubbing up against each other.

[Don Caballero]

34. Would you agree that the Earth is overpopulated

And if we do not act the amount of carbon pollution will destroy the Earth? We need aggressive one child policies worldwide. Those who choose to not procreate will be rewarded while those who break the law will be heavily fined. It is the only way we can change the climate to what it would naturally be without our presence.

[ElmoBlatz]

35. I agree

The world is overpopulated. And we live in heavy houses and drive heavy cars. Its the sheer weight of all the people along with all of our stuff that is causing more earthquakes.

[Flubadubya]

44. Last I heard...

matter can be neither created nor destroyed. Didn't we make all our "stuff" out of the "stuff" that was already here? :eyes:

[ElmoBlatz]

47. uh... i was kidding

[TheWraith]

49. Some of us figured you were. :)

It's just that the usual sarcasm detectors don't work so good on DU, since we have a certain contingent of people who honestly believe things that far removed from reality.

Welcome on board anyway. :D

[ElmoBlatz]

52. Thank you

Carbon emissions are and will cause many many problems. Earthquakes are not one of those problems.

[TheWraith]

40. Totally irrelevant, and NOT what we were talking about.

The assumption that this earthquake has anything to do with CO2 is false. Anything else is irrelevant.

[Don Caballero]

41. Overpopulation is always relevant.

We must reduce the number of births in the world.

[TheWraith]

46. You were proven wrong, so you change the subject.

You fail.

[Codeine]

36. For one,

there has been no increase in the strength of tsunamis or earthquakes in recent years. None. Ever hear of the earthquake and tsunami that leveled Lisbon in 1755? the Aleppo earthquake in the 1100's? The earthquake in Shaanxi in the 1500s that killed over 800,000 people? Hell, Anchorage was over a nine! San Francisco was damned near destroyed in 1908 or thereabouts.

This shit ain't new.

Tsunamis are simply the result of earthquakes under the sea floor, so those wouldn't be increased by climate change either.

Hurricanes, OTOH, will almost certainly become more common and more powerful as climate patterns change.

[FedUpWithIt All]

42. Climate change does affect plate tectonics.

Here NASA is describing how a specific area is affected.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2004/0715glacierquakes.html

There are also reports where NASA explains how the melting ice caps is redistributing mass on the planet, causing potential plate tectonic disruptions.

[Don Caballero]

43. Thank you. These people claiming climate change has nothing to do with natural disasters

need to look at this.

[TheWraith]

48. You fail geology forever.

The possibility that the melting of glaciers has a minor effect on the dynamics of plate tectonics is not the same thing as "Global warming caused the Haitian earthquake." Particularly when they're talking about glaciers in ALASKA, which is nowhere near Haiti, which last time I checked doesn't have any glaciers of it's own. You're trying to retcon the fact that you got caught knowing nothing about the science of the situation.

[SidDithers]

26. Yes, but that has nothing to do with earthquakes...nt

Sid

[galileoreloaded]

39. Agreed. This also points to direct relationships between affordable college nursing programs and

climate change.

See, non-sequitur's and gibberish can be fun!!

I like purple ponies, but only because my cat wears a hubcap poncho.

OK, your turn.

[anonymous171]

51. I agree. Every western country should have a one child policy

And the rich in those countries should probably be sterilized too just to be safe.

[hlthe2b]

7. Do folks realize how often we have signficiant quakes off the coast

or in other unpopulated areas of the world.... I know we are on a hair trigger, right now, but I think we need to put this in perspective. :shrug:

[Cirque du So-What]

8. Is Gaia pissed?

While looking for something about this, I found a report of an earthquake off the coast of Argentina just yesterday evening:

http://www.pamil-visions.net/argentina-earthquake-report/210665/

[Codeine]

13. We have earthquakes all the friggin time, people.

There is nothing unusual about current activity levels. Nothing.

[redqueen]

18. Just wait till 2012.

I for one cannot wait.

[Codeine]

19. Micheal Bay has promised some magnificent explosions.

I had better not be let down.

[usregimechange]

20. I agree with you but quickly became focused on the large red lips, um ah what were we talking about?

[Codeine]

23. I tried to read my post to see what i wrote.

I got lost as well.

[Raschel]

21. Argentina, Venezuela and Guatamala all over 5.0? Is that very common?

[SidDithers]

32. Yes. Very common...

here's the USGS listing of earthquakes around the world, regularly updated, including the 25 over magnitude 2.5 occurring today.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

Sid

Edit: not complete world list, only "Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 2.5 or Greater in the United States and Adjacent Areas and Magnitude 4.5 or Greater in the Rest of the World - Last 7 days"

[jpak]

22. It's been 5 minutes since this happened - why hasn't Obama sent any aid?

We all saw this coming last week.

heckuva job Obama...

:sarcasm:

[maddezmom]

24. link: Deep 6-magnitude quake shakes Guatemala

GUATEMALA CITY, Jan. 18 (UPI) -- A strong, but deep earthquake with a magnitude of 6.0 was reported 60 miles southeast of Guatemala City Monday.

The U.S. Geological Survey said in a written announcement that the shaker was centered 24 miles west-southwest of Ahuachapin, El Salvador.

There were no immediate reports of damage, and the USGS noted that the quake occurred 64 miles (103 kilometers) below the surface. The 7-magnitude quake that devastated Haiti last Tuesday was at a depth of only 5 miles or so.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2010/01/18/Deep-6-magnitude-quake-shakes-Guatemala/UPI-98371263831474/

[Hugin]

28. A link from the USGS.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/270_15.php

[blondeatlast]

25. Unrecommended? It's just a damn news story, GEEZ. nt

[MoonRiver]

30. Somebody doesn't like the original poster.

It's the only explanation. Proving the screwed up nature of the unrec feature.

[Codeine]

37. Probably more a reaction

to the ignorant hysteria than the actual story.

[alsame]

31. MSNBC just said 'light damage' and no reported injuries. nt

[HipChick]

38. occurred 64 miles below the surface...I sat out a 7.4 on St. Martinique

on another Island...It was 90 miles below surface...but still felt it....anything 6 miles like haiti, is more than going to rattle the glasses off shelves..

[DCBob]

45. Certainly are quite a few 5+ quakes lately. I have not seen any analysis of it but seems bit odd.

I often view the map of recent quakes and it has looked more active lately. I might try to download quake data from USGS and do a quick analysis to see if there is any real increase in activity. Kind of weird.