Desperate people taking food from a collapsed grocery store=Looting......

[marmar]

The IMF forcing a desperate nation to lower workers' pay and cough up natural resources = Development Assistance


This is why I cannot watch the MSM. This sh*t burns me up. :mad:

[stray cat]

1. I've heard the CNN anchors say its not looting but trying to survive if its related to survival need

[marmar]

4. Good for them.....

There are a few reporters who still remember that they're human beings too.

[Fire1]

10. That's exactly what it is. No more no less. n/t

[TornadoTN]

21. Except for Wolf Blitzer, who seems to think we need to send in our entire Army to stop it

He was going on about this tonight and actually was trying to get the Haitian Ambassador to buy into this "LOOTING AND CHAOS EVERYWHERE" fantasy.

[valerief]

2. The MSM has taught us it's only looting if black people do it.

:grr:

[eppur_se_muova]

24. White people don't loot, they "scavenge".

At least according to Katrina coverage.

Oh, yeah ... :sarcasm: <-- use as needed

[clear eye]

3. Please expand a little on what you've heard about IMF demands

if you wouldn't mind?

[marmar]

5. Here's a link:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/517494/what_haiti_is_owed

[clear eye]

14. Thank you. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Referring to the call for a wage freeze, or something like that?

[clear eye]

15. From marmar's The Nation link=>>

To great fanfare, the IMF announced a new $100 million loan to Haiti on Thursday. In one crucial way, the loan is a good thing; Haiti is in dire straits and needs a massive cash infusion. But the new loan was made through the IMF's extended credit facility, to which Haiti already has $165 million in debt. Debt relief activists tell me that these loans came with conditions, including raising prices for electricity, refusing pay increases to all public employees except those making minimum wage and keeping inflation low. They say that the new loans would impose these same conditions. In other words, in the face of this latest tragedy, the IMF is still using crisis and debt as leverage to compel neoliberal reforms.

[sabrina 1]

17. Is that a recent link, referring to the latest disaster? I'm asking

because this has happened in the past regarding Haiti and they had been forgiven some of their debt recently.

I think they owe around $800 million now.

That debt should be forgiven. And no way should Haiti accept any more debt from the IMF. That is how countries are kept in a state of poverty and oppression.

It's way past time for all those who have profited from Haiti in the past, to start repaying some of the money they stole from them. If there was any justice in the world, they would ordered to do so.

[clear eye]

18. From last Friday

"IMF to Haiti: Freeze Public Wages" posted by Richard Kim on 01/15/2010 @ 5:47pm

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/517494/what_haiti_is_owed

It mentions $891M stilled owed in total to many lenders, but of that, $265M will be owed to the IMF after you add the $100M being lent now.

[sabrina 1]

20. How sad. Thanks for the link. I am finding it hard to believe.

That should be a grant. That is a pittance to those money men. I'm sure that people will donate that amount a hundred times over, people who don't have much themselves.

There should be worldwide outrage at the idea of putting that country into further debt. Every Haitian advocacy group has asked that only grants should be offered to Haiti now, and that all debt should be forgiven.

Naomi Klein's warning was right. I really didn't think they'd do it as people lie dying in the streets. Evil is not a good enough word for this.

[madrchsod]

8. the imf demands lower wages of civil servants as a condition of a loan

the old shit they pull on every country that borrows money from them. argentina is a fine example of the imf`s disaster capitalism.

[louis-t]

7. The food isn't doing anyone any good buried in rubble.

I can't blame them one bit.

[Walk away]

9. So the couple they rescued from the collapsed market today are looters too?

They survived on the food they could reach around them.

[Speck Tater]

11. Property rights are clearly more important than human life.

This is the choice we've all bought into. We certainly wouldn't put up with having 50 homeless people camping out in our garage without our permission. So where do you draw the line?

This is obviously an area where our culture's moral standards need to be re-examined.

[Lilyeye]

12. How can you really loot in a city that is pretty much destroyed?

People to eat DAMNIT! The MSM are a bunch of idiots!

[Hannah Bell]

13. +100

[EFerrari]

16. I know. I can only watch for a few minutes at a time.

[MrsBrady]

19. as someone has said before -- if you are hungry with no where to turn, it's called FORAGING

their plight is heartbreaking

[tabasco]

22. White folks "forage" and "appropriate."

Black folks "loot."

They need to start sending black folks to the foraging and appropriating school they send us white folks to.

[nashville_brook]

23. i'm so tired of the "looting" lies. there can be no looting where there is no city.