Bottom line: If Coakley loses today, the country lurches further to the right

[scheming daemons]

For the "Can you hear us now?" crowd..... hope you'll be happy with your "victory" tonight.


You sure showed Obama and the Dems not to take you for granted anymore!

...and they'll respond to you by quickly moving to the....




farther right.




Did you learn nothing from 1994? Did the Democratic losses that year move Clinton and the Democrats to the right or to the left?



There's going to be a lot of "progressives" pumping their fist in the air tonight, you know who you are (*cough* firedoglake crowd *cough*).... even as the country is forced further away from what they say they want.


I have good health insurance (for the moment)... it won't affect me if you kill this bill, even though it is a net positive bill for America. You're unwittingly handing a victory to the very insurance companies and right-wing politicians that you claim to hate.



I hope Coakley pulls this out... for America's sake. But if she doesn't, excuse me if I don't join with the firedoglake crowd in celebrating with the teabaggers.

[Ian David]

1. How we can all help RIGHT NOW

Make at least five calls from your own home for Martha Coakley, RIGHT NOW: http://www.my.barackobama.com/coakleyn2n

The website will supply you with the names and phone numbers of people in Massachusetts that need to be called today.

Or

Donate to Martha Coakley for U.S. Senate RIGHT NOW: https://coakley.zissousecure.com/contribute/PFP/iandavidb
See also:

!!!!! NEW RULE !!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7498975

[hfojvt]

16. neither of those will help at this point

you cannot make calls on election day, and money is not gonna help now as far as paying for ads or anything. It's too late for that.

Nice idea though.

[Ian David]

17. Yes, you CAN still make phone calls

8HRS UNTIL #MASEN POLLS CLOSE. Massachusetts, Pls Go Vote! Out of state? You can still help. Call 5 voters now: http://bit.ly/7-p
http://twitter.com/MarthaCoakley/status/7951937576
about 1 hour ago from web

[Lost4words]

2. I blame establishment dems for this. and all that will not be accomplished!

[HillbillyBob]

14. yup

and this nonsense that is still spout about runnyraygun dems who I stll feel are traitors to what I believe and stand for pisses me off.
I did not vote for the pos never would.
The current spineless progressive dems in WDC and the so called konservatives are just selfish little jerks are doing as much harm to freedom as the pigs did over the last 30 years.

[lunatica]

3. If Brown wins it'll go totally against all the Presidential approval polls

More than 60% think he's doing a good job. Yet people believe that MA is different?

Of course it isn't. Coakley will win

[Tailormyst]

9. Obama has a very good approval rating here.

There are alot of other things factoring into this election. Things people from outside the area would not really know about.

[last1standing]

4. That is entirely in the hands of the Democratic majority.

If the powers that be in DC decide that moving further to the right is the appropriate response to this election (whichever way it turns out) then the voters will decide in November whether they want more right-wing solutions in congress, and if so, which party is best equipped to provide them. I thought that question was answered last November, but apparently not.

[depakid]

5. Horseshit

The leadership is not THAT stupid.

[dflprincess]

20. Sure they are

the DLC is charge and they'll use any excuse to move right - whether it makes sense or not.

[Leopolds Ghost]

6. When yr right yr right. Hopefully narrow Coakley victory will convince them not to sign suicide pact

They've already lost Dorgan (now THIS fucking pisses me off) and possibly Reid (no great loss there, I hate to say it.)

[Tailormyst]

7. I did my part and voted for Coakley

If she loses it damn well is not the fault of the liberal left.

[DisgustedInMN]

8. Well then...

.. my friend, "they" have taken exactly the wrong lesson from it. I don't, and I know of any of my real world Democrat friends, who want Brown to win Ted Kennedy's seat. But I do have many that understand WHY it might happen AND how it could have been prevented. Should "the Party" take this as a call, "to move to the Right," there will be a bloodbath come next November that will make 1994 look like a Democratic picnic.

[Captain Hilts]

10. The country is still further left than it was 20 years ago and further left than its government. nt

[Johonny]

13. Yah but the right has vastly more of the media's ear

and thus the country appears farther right than ever.

[Pab Sungenis]

11. And if she wins

then the nation WALKS further to the right.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see her in the Senate than Brown, but either way two years from now we have to find a REAL Democratic Senator to run against whoever wins.

[sui generis]

12. Good. Further right is good. There are consequences to ignoring your base.

This is one of them.

I honestly hope it is not the case that Coakley loses, but if "Obama and the Dems" or Tony Orloongoon and Froondwap, as the case may be, decide that the democratic party is only for mainstream democrats until it's time to ask for the rest of our vote:

that's your bed. You've made it, sleep in it.

ON EDIT: this post could be read either way, so to clarify, further right is NOT good, (sarcasm thingie goes HERE), but well before ideology, people gravitate towards leadership that aligns with their interests.

People who have no strong ideology (a lot of voters) just gravitate towards the appearance of leadership - and the topics for which we are supposed to have been visionary and practical are all kind of mush mouth applesauce at the moment: war, healthcare, gay rights, environment.

We're just not all that exciting any more.

[samsingh]

15. we own every lever of elected government on the hill

i can't believe we a 18 vote majority in the Senate, we're so ineffective.

how did bush the idiot govern like a king when he had at most a 1 vote majority in the senate?

[Ian David]

18. Because Republicans march in lockstep.

Democrats are a "big tent."

[kjackson227]

19. ITA. I would hate to think that I was the one who helped...

kill HCR for 31 million Americans and those with pre-existing conditions. At times, I really wonder what we're thinking.

[jpljr77]

21. Owens > Hoffman, Owens > Hoffman, Owens > Hoffman, Owens > Hoffman

A Democrat won a special election to become the first in his party to represent a district in NY in 150 years. That happened a little more than 2 months ago. Even that district was not ready for The Conservative Party.

Bit too soon to call a shift to the right, in my opinion.