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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:51 AM
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US troops land at Haiti presidential palace - ap
"PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti – Scores of U.S. troops landed on the lawn of Haiti's shattered presidential palace Tuesday to the cheers of quake victims and the U.N. said it would add 3,500 police and soldiers to the sluggish global effort to aid the devastated country.

The U.N. forces are aimed at helping control the outbursts of looting and violence that have slowed distribution of supplies. The Security Council approved adding 2,000 troops to the 7,000 military peacekeepers already in the country as well as 1,500 more police to the 2,100-strong international force.

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"We are happy that they are coming, because we have so many problems," said Fede Felissaint, a hairdresser.

Given the circumstances, he did not even mind the troops taking up positions at the presidential palace. "If they want, they can stay longer than in 1915," he said, a reference to the start of a 19-year U.S. military presence in Haiti — something U.S. officials have repeatedly insisted they have no intention of repeating."

ap, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_haiti_earthquake
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:53 AM
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1. I guess we need to protect our installed President first.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:55 AM
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2. I guess you do not get this that this is a command post
and that we are working WITH THE HOST government.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:07 AM
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11. who we installed. that's a clue for you.
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 07:08 AM by Hannah Bell
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:01 PM
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3. Actually he is not there...other reports had him operating elsewhere. The palace is in shambles
It does have nice flat areas to use as an landing zone and its not at the airport. Somehow I think that matters more than the symbolism attached to a shattered building.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:03 PM
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4. I guess the Haitains cheering the troops is just a smoke-screen.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:15 AM
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12. Many Haitians were not cheering
Some were vocally opposed to the presence of US troops at this location.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:07 PM
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5. With folks like you, the US is damned if it tries to help and damned if it doesn't.
I'm beginning to understand why the pukes claim liberals hate America. There are a very vocal few here who hate EVERYTHING the US does.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:13 PM
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6. It's simply bad form to establish command at the palace .. just like Iraq. Pick someplace else.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:58 PM
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9. It's unlikely there IS someplace else to pick.
open, flat land where you can set up a command post and actually have the ability to land helicopters is hard to come by when the entire city ISN'T in shambles.

Seems like a very pragmatic choice.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:52 PM
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8. Well, one has to admire all the logistics,
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 01:56 PM by Ghost Dog
you know, seizing the opportunity, and only in one week to organise

the talking points, and to get the right MSM people and all their equipment in place, and

to as far as possible marginalise and/or get rid of all those French and Spanish and other other-language-speaking people who are/were doing such useful human/humane work since day one (and before) with no need for other than, you know, normal levels of security (like, just talking to people face-to-face and being able to look them in the eye), and

make sure the cameras and the talking heads got priority to get there with all their equipment and vital supplies ready to report on (and explain the necessity of)

US Marines Landing! :puke:

Reminds me a little of Clinton's Somalia Beach Head, man.

Anything, of course, to avoid Anarchy (aka self-sufficient self-organizing mutual aid, the usual small minority of (economically-challenged) 'bad guys' notwithstanding).

And anyway, sure, anyone left alive in the bowels of those supermarkets (and/or even at street level in downtown P o' P) have obviously been LOOTING to stay alive, so there's no excuse, is there?

Clear the area.















Look to your own souls, Trolls.

(No criticism implied as regards pure technicians, the likes of you, Nadin).


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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:07 AM
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10. Ok, correction, according to my local newspaper this morning
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 07:08 AM by Ghost Dog
(with front page photo), paratroopers.

We still think the same.

(edit: I have no, almost never watch TV).
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:51 PM
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7. ... And topple statue of, uh, Toussaint Louverture
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:22 AM
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13. Are there any people trapped alive there? Will they open gates & use it as a distro?
Any bodies that need rescuing?

Or is this about turning the symbol of Haitian sovereignty into a US command post?

6 search teams, 30 Haitians saved from the rubble as of this weekend.

3,000 American citizens rescued and evacd.

27 international search teams, many more Haitians saved from rubble.

Search and rescue period is OVER --

before US MIL allows additional search and med teams to land.

Shades of Katrina.

No priority given first responders. "Security is first priority" says Clinton and Gates.

Security and logistics flights (US MIL and State Dept) prioritized.

The doctors are the only people doing their jobs properly there.
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