FACEBOOK USERS: Help Shut Down this Hate Group on FB

[leapinggnome]

The group is called "Fuck the Haiti Earthquake" and
it is a racist, hateful group.  If they had even tasteful
nudity, Facebook would have yanked it within a couple of days.
 The photos they are posting there are racist.  The message is
racist.  The groups is run by racist ignoramuses who actually
think they are funny.

This goes beyond free speech.  

If you are a Facebook user, you can report the group AND
report individual photos. The link for reporting the group is
in the lower left corner of the group's page.  The photos have
a link below them on the lower right.

Please help get this group yanked from Facebook.

Thanks

leapinggnome.

[LiberalFighter]

1. Tell everyone that Limpbag is financing the group.

[Motown_Johnny]

2. there are 2, one is the same + victims

reported them both

[derby378]

3. Just did it. Thanks! (n/t)

[Qutzupalotl]

4. Remember to report each racist photo too.

[racaulk]

9. Done.

Those photos, and their captions, are truly disgusting. I reported all of the racist ones...which were most of them.

:puke:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

62. Yep. That, too. -nt

[Terra Alta]

5. I have seen lots of disgusting things on Facebook.

But this tops it all.:grr:

Hopefully not only will the group get deleted but the racist assholes who created the group will get their accounts yanked, as well.

[FLyellowdog]

6. Done. nt

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. Done. Disgusting, hateful, inhuman.

[DrDan]

8. done

[Bennyboy]

10. Done and put it on my FB Wall...

thnx

[Name removed]

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[deadmessengers]

12. I believe in free speech, even for racists.

If you don't believe in freedom of speech for those who say things you disagree with, you don't believe in it at all. Besides, I think they should have a forum, just so that the rest of us can point to it and say "see, these people really do exist."

[Motown_Johnny]

13. they can go to Freeperland and spew their hate. They have freedom of speech

but that does not mean they can say anything they want anywhere they want.

[perro azul]

32. I'm nominating that for 'IRONY OF THE YEAR' award.

"I support your right to say anything you want but I'll kill you if you do."

:eyes:

[Qutzupalotl]

37. WTF?!

"I'll kill you if you do."

Here's a debating tip. When you misstate your opponent's position, subtlety is your friend.

Yes, you have a right to spew any bigoted shit that occurs to you, but you don't have free rein to post it on a privately-owned website.

The Constitution is about placing limits on government. The Constitution doesn't "give" anyone rights; we have them already. So spew random shit. Nobody will care until you come into a private home or business or website.

[perro azul]

40. All of which has to do with 'Facebook', how, exactly?

There seems to be a lot of outrage about what Facebook is 'allowing' at the same time defending their right to allow it. There's a disconnect, it seems. Either they have the freedom to permit what you don't like or they do not...which is it?

[Qutzupalotl]

43. That is NOT the question. Don't be obtuse.

Facebook can permit or prohibit whatever they want. Their rules ALREADY prohibit what the OP is referencing, hence the thread.

The Constitution does not say anything about what private entities can decide about postings on their own website, and that's how it should be!

[EOTE]

68. Logic fail.

What a boneheaded way to go after someone who doesn't believe as you do. And you should be quite aware that the first amendment does NOT mean that people can say whatever they want. I'm sure you're aware of the yelling "fire" in a crowded theater example?

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. And FB has the right to have rules. Their rules don't permit this crap.

As a member, I will exercise my right to report this.

[Maru Kitteh]

17. Facebook is not constitutionally protected. Let them sell their rot elsewhere.

[Terra Alta]

20. FB is a privately owned company

and has rules against such groups... it would be like someone coming into your house and spewing racist remarks. Would you let them stay in your home to protect their "freedom of speech" or would you tell them to leave?

These people can spew their racist BS all they want on sites like Freerepublic and Stormfront.. FB is not the site for this.

[devilgrrl]

26. What a piss poor excuse!

:nuke:

[perro azul]

28. The First Amendment is a piss poor excuse?

WOW

[devilgrrl]

30. Not on someone else's site it isn't. They want to spew that shit - let them created their own social

network.

[Qutzupalotl]

31. Yes.

Congress is not passing a law restricting speech here.

Facebook is a private organization with its own rules which ban this type of thing. The First Amendment doesn't apply to this case.

[leapinggnome]

45. The First Amendment

does not state that everyone has a right to say what they want to. What it says is that the government cannot restrict speech. The government is not the issue.

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. You need to read it again

The First Amendment doesn't cover a private business like FB.

Enjoy your stay here, predictably brief. Maybe you will learn a thing or two. Like what the First Amendment actually does. :hi:

[perro azul]

27. Many people on both sides of the political spectrum don't really believe in free speech.

Except speech they agree with.
:shrug:

[devilgrrl]

33. So you agree with the racist tone of the facebook group in question?

Thought so.

:popcorn:

[perro azul]

34. No, I don't agree with what they said but I think they have the right to say it

the owners of Facebook (which I actually don't even know anything about) have the right to determine what content THEY will allow. In any case, I do think the First Amendment gives Americans the right to say racist things. Do you disagree with that?

[devilgrrl]

36. So, if NAACP had a social networking site, you'd be fine with racists setting up a group within?

Sounds like it.

:popcorn:

[perro azul]

38. I think it would be up to the NAACP (isn't 'colored people' a no-no these days?)

Are you saying it should be something like illegal to be a racist? I'm just trying to figure out how you think about the Bill of Rights here...Isn't it the POINT of the BOR to permit "unpopular" viewpoints? I may have it all wrong...

[devilgrrl]

41. Here's to your impending pizza delivery

:hi:

enjoy the rest of your brief stay.

[perro azul]

42. I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate your tolerance for dissent.

You are a credit to the Democratic Party, which I have been a proud member of for 45 years and only recently have begun to have reservations about having done so. Good work.

[devilgrrl]

44. And I appreciate your enthusiasm for racist drivel. What ever it takes to make you feel better about

yourself. :hi:

[perro azul]

72. I'm sorry you can't appreciate the difference between -being- a racist and

supporting the right of somebody to be one. Pesky constitution and all that rot, eh?

[devilgrrl]

76. So, I don't support the right to free speech because I object to a group on a PRIVATE network?

Make shit up much?

Troll?

[perro azul]

77. Well, do you object to this private endeavor? I'm just trying to learn the ground rules

http://www.missblackamerica.com/Index2b.html

[devilgrrl]

78. Why? Is there anti-Israel group within that site?

Troll?

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. LOL

All the newbies say that. :rofl:

[Sans Culottes]

64. I don't believe you're a Democrat.

And you're a whiney little snot, too boot.

[Name removed]

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[bullwinkle428]

65. "Blue Dog" : you sure know how to bring on the clever!

:eyes:

[proud2BlibKansan]

51. We need an alert button that says "OBVIOUS TROLL"

[devilgrrl]

56. What would that do?

Because it's still here. :mad:

[Flaneur]

67. Yes, people have the right to spout racist drivel.

And privately held Facebook has the right to not allow it on their website.

Why do you go on about this? If these idiot racist assholes can't make their own web page, tough.

[Rebubula]

69. 1st Amendment

You obviously have no idea of the real world implementation.

They have a right to say whatever they want...private groups have a right not to give you a forum. No one is stopping them from being stupid assholes...they just cannot be stupid assholes there if the owners of the site do not want them.

Thanks for stopping by....

[LanternWaste]

58. Just a head's up...

Just a head's up-- might I suggest you re-read (or read?) excerpts re: "harm principle" and the "offense principle", in addition to a privately held company's rights to place restrictions on certain types of speech within the confines of that companies propriety?

If Facebook does indeed choose to deny this particular group a forum on their property, they may still engage in the form of speech they are currently practices-- simply not there. Or do you believe that you yourself have no right to limit what may or may not be said in your own premises?

Every right has concomitant restrictions and regulations placed on them, you see-- this ain't the mythological libertarian society a lot of people fantasize about you see (thank God).

Try: Principles For A Free Society: by Richard A. Epstein and Principles of Political Economy by John S. Mill

ed: spelling

[SteppingRazor]

66. What does any of this have to do with free speech?

Facebook is a private company, not a wing of the government. If they don't like what someone says on their site they (just like DemocraticUnderground) can stop it -- and they have every right to. Now, if someone posted racist drivel on Facebook, and then the government came to take them away to Guantanamo or something, I'd say you have a point.But as it stands, I don't think you quite 'get' what free speech means. The First Amendment guarantees that the government will not interfere with your right to free speech. It doesn't mean that you cannot suffer consequences for your free speech. If you call your boss an asshole, he'll fire you. If you post hate speech on Facebook, they can shut you down.

[fortyfeetunder]

53. With free speech comes responsibility

Just because one has the rights of free speech one must conduct irresponsible and immature behaviour. That FB group is a disgusting piece of trash.

[kerrywins]

73. Free Speech is about not having gov. shut down someone

facebook can do what it wants with its property.

[Arugula Latte]

14. Done. nt

[SallyMander]

15. THAT WAS NAUSEATING

I couldn't even get through the photos... omg... :puke:

[GoneOffShore]

18. Reported them

[Dorian Gray]

19. That's disgusting.

They'll be shut down. I have no desire to click on or go near that page.

[Quixote1818]

21. Why is it taking Facebook so long to shut them down????

That was repulsive!

[KonaKane]

22. Same reason its taking craigslist forever to deal with flagging abuse

Short answer....they don't really give a shit.

[Quixote1818]

35. I tried to report the people directly but when it askes for a reason you get kicked

off the page to their terms and there is no way to push the process button? I was able to report all the photos though. They probably have hundreds of reports on that group so far and it's still there? Do they not check their reports EVER?

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Links:

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Fuck+the+Haiti+Earthquake&init=quick#/group.php?gid=252837202435&ref=search&sid=749585319.451086289..1

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Fuck+the+Haiti+Earthquake&init=quick#/group.php?gid=274148109616&ref=search&sid=749585319.451086289..1

[lamp_shade]

24. Done.... BOTH of them.

[KamaAina]

25. (facebludgeon)

:wtf:

[AllenVanAllen]

29. I reported the group, pictures and racist comments

Here's a much more popular group that is primarily wall discussion and has over 800 members.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=77038&id=100000557419564&op=2&view=global&subj=252837202435&oid=252837202435#/group.php?gid=249872639199&ref=search&sid=1679568972.1205672417..1


No matter how old I get I'll never get used to the hatred people show to their brothers and sisters.

[Ishoutandscream2]

54. Shit, over a 1000 members of that page

God, my patience for Americans is waning. I know there are good folks contributing their money and time to help out in Haiti. But for 1000 people to be a member of this site is beyond the pale.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people. WWJD?

[AllenVanAllen]

70. "Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people."

They can't see past their own pain and suffering to care about anyone else, because of mental illness and/or life's negative conditioning. It's normal for humans to show some degree of compassion for those that suffer right in front of us.

[jkirch]

39. Done and Done. nt

[Shanti Mama]

46. How do we report these groups?

I've looked and can't find the answer.

[leapinggnome]

47. re: How do we report these groups

Look on the bottom left hand side of the group's page and you will see Report Group link. You have to be signed into Facebook in order to do this, though.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Won't work for me

I tried all night to report them. Clicked on that Report Group link and nothing happened. And yes I was signed in to FB. I ended up going through and reporting their pictures.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

61. You have to be a member, I believe. There's a "Report" link in the lower left of the group page. -nt

[goldcanyonaz]

48. Thanks for informing us of this. Reported.

[Bettie]

55. Where do these people come from?

I just cannot understand the attitude the people on this group display.

What makes people so filled with hate that they can wish ill to other humans who have suffered tragedy?

It makes me really sad.

Oh and I reported pretty much everything on that horrid group.

[Swede]

57. Done

[MilesColtrane]

59. I deactivated my FB account a couple of weeks ago.

Privacy no longer a social norm, says Facebook founder

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jan/11/facebook-privacy

[guitar man]

60. reported

thanks for shining the light :)

[nini]

63. why the hell are those groups still up there?

Holy Crap - what sick mother fuckers.

[wisteria]

74. Done, what a discusting site. n/t

[LeftishBrit]

75. Done - there are a few similar groups (ugh) and I reported all of them.

[leapinggnome]

79. I think it's gone!

I looked it up on Facebook a few minutes ago and I think it's gone!!! Thank you for all the responses!