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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:04 PM
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Maybe mainstream America just doesn't want Health Care for everyone.
Maybe we are just a nation of selfish bigots who really are only interested in our selfish and bigoted personal goals.

If Brown wins in Mass., and we lose HCR because of it, then I will refuse to listen to any Republican-based group, person,or entity that talks about what a sad shape this country's health-care is in...ever, ever, ever again.

When someone starts up with whining about premiums being too high, pre-existing conditions preventing them from getting insurance, or having their insurance terminated due to the high cost of their personal illnesses, I will (without even taking a breath) ask them (1)if they
are a registered voter, (2) what did you think HCR was about and (3) what did you want our nation to do to handle the Health Care issue? And I will wait for answers.

If we want a better nation, then we have to take a stand and fight for what is right.Sadly, it looks like not enough of us are willing to do that. I'll be 64 years old in a couple of weeks, and I have excellent healthcare coverage...so this is not for me. I'm covered. I just cannot believe that others who deserve to be on this earth just as much as I do won't be taken care of when they need it the most.

This is a sad time. A sad time.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:37 PM
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1. you have a handful of billionaires who are in the position to convince
(hmm ... for the longest time you heard about how TV dumbed down the past few generations ... here we have the end result ... people voting for Republicans)

a bunch of barely-above minimum wagers that it's in their best interests to make sure that some whiney rich kid never has to pay another god-damned dime in taxes for the rest of his or her life ...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:40 PM
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2. Sad when people can't figure out that they are being manipulated, isn't it?
And not in a good way. :shrug:
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:19 PM
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11. Exactly!!!!!nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:42 PM
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3. Um...was there a politician running on 'Healthcare For Everyone?'
I mean, prior to the Obama campaign pretending that's what 'universal' meant

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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:47 PM
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4. I have NO health care now, and my life means NOTHING.
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 08:49 PM by demodonkey

This bill is not perfect, but it would have at least started the process to better reforms in the future instead of making healthcare another third rail that no elected official will touch for decades.

And it might have at least gotten me enough crappy insurance so that my life wouldn't be at risk every single day I am alive.

Right now, if I get sick, the "responsible" thing for me to do would be just die. If I was a "good" worthwhile person I would have a job with benefits. Or I could afford to pay for a policy on my own, right?

No one will care, now or then, including a lot of so-called democrats. AND THAT HURTS, but who cares.

Whatever.




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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:51 PM
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5. I'm so sorry...
:hug:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:53 PM
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6. If the Democratic leadership wanted health care for everyone they would
have come up with a different bill, one that actually covered everyone and started sooner than four years from now.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:59 PM
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8. And they would have passed it by now.
This 60 vote bullshit is just that: bullshit.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:59 PM
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7. I would tend to agree with you. Most people DON'T want health care for everyone.
They don't wanna be "livin' in some socialist country." lol
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:10 PM
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9. They were offered an insurance industry handout, not "Health Care for everyone".
The Obama Administration acts like the White House is Wall Street's liaison office to the government, and that doesn't seem to be firing up the usual Democratic voters. Go figure.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:17 PM
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10. The problem is the selfishness, lack of empathy, and
the well oiled right wing media machine that can make mainstream America think whatever is beneficial to the far right corporate agenda.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:20 PM
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12. False premise: what was being offered was NOT "Health Care for everyone"
it was "giveaway to health care insurance companies" and "ripoff of regular working people".
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:24 PM
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14. I guess the health insurance companies will be singing their reuglar song...
"Money, Money, Money"...Or how about "Winner Takes It All"?
Oh Mamma Mia!!!! I feel like crap!!!!:cry:
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:32 PM
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15. Or maybe they do.
And they realize this POS that Congress has been debating almost a year over is not worth it.

I expected a public option at the very LEAST. We aren't even going to get anything close to that. I cannot stand Republicans, and even I am angry at how the Democrats have governed this past year, so I can imagine how other Obama voters are feeling.

It sucks. The Republicans have run this country into the ground, and are standing in the way of any meaningful change. They don't deserve to govern. But what about the Democrats? What do you do? Do you keep voting them in, even though they are disappointing? I don't know what the answer is to that. How many Democrats do we need to get something done? 60? 61? 70?
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