"It's only been one year!!!1 Baby steps!!" - well, that was our year.

[Bluebear]

A supermajority that we have not enjoyed in a generation and will likely not enjoy again. One year, and we squandered it with Baucus and wooing Olympia Snowe and reaching out to the other side and . . . well, here we are.

[global1]

1. And We Gave BushCo 8 years........nt

[Bluebear]

2. He certainly used it to his advantage, I'll give him that!

[roguevalley]

17. Obama wanted bipartisanship, even if it was one vote. That is like

asking a polar bear for a kiss. Fuck them all tonight. ALL of them.

[kenny blankenship]

22. Not that it matters much anymore, but all disappointment and disagreements aside

that bipartisan fetish thing of his will always be a mystery to me.

He cut his own throat for them - for what? WHY?

[rudy23]

47. It makes a whole lot of sense if you take Obama for a Repub in Dem's clothing

"Bipartisanship" is a good way to say "I'm going to pass right wing legislation that a Republican could never get away with.

Maybe University of Chicago grad Obama realized early on that he'd never win as a Republican, even though that's his ideology. Then the DLC came along...

[roguevalley]

60. I know. I *WANT HIM TO SUCCEED*! But how can you not know

something wouldn't work that was so obvious an old gal in the boonies in Alaska could see it coming?!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

51. Polar bears are more cooperative.

[roguevalley]

62. bwahaha! You should google our Binkie. He took the shoe off a

tourist who had the misjudgment to traipse close to his kingdom. :)

[jgraz]

3. Almost like they planned it, huh?

:shrug:

[Moochy]

15. Cui Bono?

And I'm not talking about Sonny. :+

"See? This one outcome in a special election in one state CLEARLY signifies that all voters everywhere are demanding that Democrats tack further to the Right!" said the fatcat indusry lobbyist making it rain $$$$$$.

[inna]

25. i'm afraid you're right.

Even further shift to the right will not surprise me at this point. "Entitlement" reform, anyone? x(

[bobbolink]

36. Yes, we poor folk know our necks are next on the chopping block, and there will be

no outcry.

We will be martyrs for the rest of you, and die in silence.

[Junkdrawer]

33. And here I thought I was the only one with that suspicion...

Guess I'm not alone after all..

[Grand Taurean]

4. Bush got eight years, Obama gets 364 days!

:wtf:

[cherokeeprogressive]

28. Erhhhhhhh! Wrong answer Grand T! President Obama gets 3+ years...

I'd say four, but there's a point leading up to the next election when no matter what you do, you'll be judged by what you said you'd do, and what you didn't do.

So people who voted for Candidate Obama aren't happy with the performance of President Obama. Such is their right. It's also their right to voice their disappointment with any and all choices he's made.

I gotta tell ya that although I'm not a SINGLE issue voter, I'm not much more than a two or three issue voter. I am the lucky father of an 18 year old Lesbian. I don't take that lightly. She came out to ME, her FATHER, of all people. She knows who I am. HER issues make up the single most important reason I voted for Candidate Obama.

But it goes way deeper than that. I'm thinking that the BILLIONS we're spending on war and illegal occupation could be better spent on green energy research. That's two.

I'm MORE than disappointed that he chose people who rode the wave of financial irresponsibility to untold fortune, and then allowed those same people to further enrich their cronies. That's three.

He couldn't be bothered when it came to supporting the woman who ran for Teddy Kennedy's Senate seat. If it were really important to him to "honor Teddy Kennedy's memory", then he'd have spent more time and political capital in order to do so. That's four.

I'm pissed.

[bobbolink]

39. What would it take for you to consider us poor folk as one of your issues?

[sixstrings75]

43. With all due respect....

I think if you take care of his issues 2 & 3 (end illegal, expensive wars, political & economic corruption), you would see a much different economic environment. Although trying to resolve these issues seems like such an impossibility. Sad.

[bobbolink]

48. No, it doesn't work that way, and your assumption is WHY we poor folk are sinking.

Unless and until ALL of you take us and our lives seriously and stand with us, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER AND DIE.

That's precisely WHY I used the term "martyr".

We are suffering for your neglect.

[sixstrings75]

41. Awesome post. n/t

[bobbolink]

37. ANyone who knows politics KNOWS that the first year is when most of the work gets done.

So you can :wtf: all you want... history will show you the error of your arrogance.

Yet, I'm guessing no amount of being shown the truth of that will deter you from your denigration of others.

[timeforpeace]

5. A cogent analysis.

[Jamastiene]

6. Yup.

You can BET that anything the Repukes want passed would be steamrolled and passed JUST LIKE THEY WANT IT. And the worst part about it was that Bush didn't have the majority like the current administration has had. Yet, he got whatever he fucking wanted.

All that right wing ass kissing our Democratically controlled Congress has done has backfired time and again. It never ever works. Yet, they keep doing it over and over again.

When will our leadership learn? Ever?

[rufus dog]

18. Name one time

that when Bush was pushing through legislation that the media had any analysis? And Cheerleading ain't analysis.

[Jamastiene]

29. As if that would have made a difference.

Analysis in the news media does not run this country. Quit worrying what the media thinks. That is mistake #1.

[Fla Dem]

50. After 9/11 all media and politicians were afraid of being labeled unpatriotic.

This was a damnable tactic used by the right wing to castrate any and all opposition regardless of the issue. Heck they even went after the french fries. Except for the most secure and principled democrat, they all tiptoed around any criticism of a "Wartime President".

[Smashcut]

19. I think this gives them too little credit.

It's become clear they know exactly what they're doing, and who they work for. And it isn't us.

[inna]

27. +1

You took the words out of my mouth.

[FiveGoodMen]

31. "When will our leadership learn?"

My opinion is that the Dems are playing 'good cop' to the repuke 'bad cop' and they are really on the same side working for the same people.

It's not that they don't learn. It's that they aren't after the things we want.

[JVS]

7. It's like the Bible says: use it or lose it.

[TexasObserver]

8. Our party blew a major opportunity due to leadership failures.

We delivered the congress and the presidency. They didn't deliver on the promise of the 2008 campaign, and a fickle electorate is already weary of excuses.

[iceman66]

9. They should never have let the health care debate

drag on long enough for this election to matter.

I blame Reid and Pelosi for that, and to a lesser extent Obama for not pushing them harder.

They act like they have all the time in the world!

[Naturyl]

10. K&R

The left is not represented in America, period.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

11. Failure of Leadership. Bipartisianship chosen...

over BASIC Democratic Principles ... beginning with FISA, straight through HCR.

You'd have to be blind, stupid AND a kool-aid guzzler not to recognize the drastic CHANGE in priorities between the campaign rhetoric and the actions of the Obama Administration.

[leftstreet]

12. K&R

[LoZoccolo]

13. I would like to congratulate Bluebear for all he's done this year. n/t

[Bluebear]

21. I doubt you know what you yourself do day to day, let alone anybody else.

[TheWatcher]

26. You're just jealous because you haven't mastered the gift of being nearly as useless as him.

Let's not bicker or be envious.

Let's instead look to him as an inspiration of what we should strive for!

Or not....

[Bluebear]

30. We can strive, but we would never, ever achieve that level.

Thank you. Thank you for putting it into perspective for me :)

[Forkboy]

42. I'd like to congratulate Bluebear for not getting post after post locked like you do.

It's hard being a troll, isn't it, LoZo?

[Bluebear]

46. Especially when every post he makes gets unrecced into oblivion.

It can't be easy.

[LoZoccolo]

53. There you go again with the "troll" thing again.

Normally I don't care about personal attacks but you're doing it in the context of talking about my locked threads, and no one likes a hypocrite. I basically let people personally attack me, I don't really care unless they did something like accuse me of a crime or something. I could alert on you right now but I won't. Yeah I sometimes engage in street theater to make a point but don't use that term to accuse me of being a Republican or something (if I was a Republican troll I'd do what the other Republican trolls are doing and try to sow fake-ass splinterist discontent; actually I'd do none of that because there are enough people doing it already and DU jumped the shark last month with splinterist OPs on the front page which are ongoing).

Besides, I've already lectured you about how often they're locked for ambiguous "customer satisfaction" issues, often hours after they are posted.

[Forkboy]

56. I think you're just the garden variety troll.

Though it's hilarious that you have the nerve to claim you wouldn't post splinterist shit like a republican troll when your last thread was locked because it was "divisive" (or were the mods lying and covering up for those "unsatisfied customers"?)

Besides, I've already lectured you about how often they're locked for ambiguous "customer satisfaction" issues, often hours after they are posted.

No, you tried to weasel out of your own words and blame others for not buying your divisive spew. I linked to all your locks within a week's period and they were locked for flamebait. Calling the mods liars, LoZo? Because the proof is right there in their locking messages. Shall I list them for all to see again?

I eagerly await your request to do so. In fact, fuck that, I'll post them anyways. Then you can point out which individual mods were lying and how those flamebait locks were really for other reasons the mods are too nefarious to mention....

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Locking

Divisive , inflammatory OP.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7489901#7490847



Locking

As the replies to this clearly indicate, this is divisive and inflammatory . Please do not start threads to call out and attack members with whom you disagree.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7267695#7273032


Locking.

Flamebait.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7267799


Locking

Things are pretty hot here right now, and inflammatory posts that appear to have the goal of causing even more division just are not helpful.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7256042#7256324


Locking

High grade flamebait.
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I could alert on you right now but I won't.

Yeah, no shit. Because you know if the mods ever see all your bullshit compiled into one spot you'd be shitcanned faster than Rush on his first day of work at the Oxycontin factory.

You're right about one thing...no one likes a hypocrite, so stop being one and claiming others are trying to divide the party when that's the only fucking thing you've ever done here.

Dooga dooga dooga, dude. :hi:

[LoZoccolo]

57. I actually considered leaving over that last one.

I fail to see what was wrong with pointing out that splinterists don't care who sees office. They say that.. I also fail to see what's "divisive" about attacking people who are violating the foundational rules and charter of DU. It is 100% against the rules to work to support the defeat of a Democratic candidate using Democratic Underground's facities. Are the administrators being "divisive" by tombstoning those who break this rule?

I think it may be that certain mods don't know the meaning of the word "splinterist" as I define it.

And I've never advocating not voting for a Democrat in a general election - not Kucinich or Lamont; my opponents do. I respect the primaries on DU. Tell me again who is divisive when people advocate voting third-party or staying home. Tell me that that's not divisive.

[Forkboy]

58. Bummer you didn't listen to your inner self.

I fail to see what was wrong with pointing out that splinterists don't care who sees office.

Maybe it's because they see you as one yourself. And you are. When YOU see that maybe things will change and your posts will become constructive instead of masturbatory aids for yourself.

I also fail to see what's "divisive" about attacking people who are violating the foundational rules and charter of DU.

See above. Then ask the mods.

It is 100% against the rules to work to support the defeat of a Democratic candidate using Democratic Underground's facities.

And instead of alerting on those posts you start threads of your own that undermine the party just as much as the people you complain about. You shit on anyone to the Left of you, and then say you're not divisive.

Are the administrators being "divisive" by tombstoning those who break this rule?

LOL...I'll let Skinner answer that one, assuming you had the guts to ask, which you don't.

But some people got upset (and had a hard time pointing out where my example was logically impossible) and customer satisfaction won again.

I'll ask again...are the mods lying? Were they just saying it was flamebait to support those people you upset? Are the mods in the bag for the splinterists? Do you take ANY responsibility for the words you type and the reactions they get? It doesn't seem like you do. Instead you fob off the responsibility onto others and excuse yourself.

And I've never advocating not voting for a Democrat in a general election - not Kucinich or Lamont; my opponents do.

So disingenuous that it's vomit worthy. You don't OPENLY advocate for the loss of people like DK and his ilk, you just start threads mocking him and making fun of the UFO stuff (would you like links to those as well?). You don't discuss issues, you don't don't discuss policy, you don't offer any constructive criticism, you just post shit to try to embarrass people you don't like and their supporters. Is your intention in doing that just shits and giggles? Please. You kid no one, probably not even you if you had the capability of being honest with yourself. Which I doubt.

Tell me again who is divisive when people advocate voting third-party or staying home. Tell me that that's not divisive.

It is divisive. Now please tell me how your being equally divisive is the answer, and how it DOESN'T make you a hypocrite when you do it?

[treestar]

14. We have the system we have

And the voters put in the people they put in.

Reality is that Lieberman is no Democrat and that the Repukes are absolutely united in lockstep against everything.

[timeforpeace]

38. The system we have says "Go ahead and waste a whole year. Want a mulligan?"

[slipslidingaway]

16. knr - what a lost opportunity :( n/t

[Kablooie]

20. Now we can look forward to nothing but filibusters that keep us living in Bush's world.

Bush may have created the world that we must live in for the rest of our lives.
He may have one of the most influential legacys of any American President.

Enjoy.

[Political Heretic]

23. However, its still not about speed, but rather about direction.

[Raine]

24. Yup opportunities lost forever.

I'm :mad: and :-(

Edit: added word.

[Hosnon]

32. We should force actual filibusters and, when they fail, votes. G-ddamnit start calling bluffs...

When the first filibuster fails, then what will the GOP have? Nada...

I'm sick of their trying to play the entire process out in private.

[tekisui]

34. Down the fucking drain.

A bunch of weak-ass bending over for conservatives.

[bobbolink]

35. I hate it when you're right.

I'm reading so many words.... YOURS are the words that are making me cry.

There are no words for the real devastation that lack of hearing WE, The People has done.

No words at all for those of us who will continue to suffer because we are ignored.

[cliffordu]

40. There was never a supermajority.

The bluedogs have been the problem all along. To dismiss this truth is disengenuous at best.


All you are doing is trying to manipulate the truth to fit the political views have expressed since the primary.

:eyes:

[Bluebear]

44. Ah, "disingenuous". A fanboy buzzword.

I agree with you about the blue-dogs, it's too bad you feel the need to be such an asshole about it. "Manipulating the truth", go get bent. The primaries are over and I doubt you remember a lick of what I or anybody said during the primaries who didn't belong to your coterie. /ignore

[cliffordu]

52. You were the very first person to put me on ignore way back when......

And I remember EXACTLY what you had to say about Candidate Obama, too.

Same shit, different day.

Being on your ignored list is like what being on the Nixon enemies list was at the time - a hallowed and privileged place to abide.

Thanks for the honor.

Coterie. Heh.

[amborin]

45. squandered big time, even the stimulus package; yet not 1 rethug vote;

just a shame to waste the historic opportunity dems had

[bvar22]

49. Who could have guessed....

...that letting Joe Lieberman and Olympia Snow write the HCR Bill would PISS OFF so many Democrats? :shrug:

"When given the choice between a Republican, and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voters will choose the Republican every time." ---Harry Truman

QED

[Bluebear]

54. Whoda thunk it!

[bobbolink]

59. Yes, it has chess players the world over whirling in confusion....

Who could have known they would fly planes into buildings, too?

[tnlefty]

55. It's only one song!

Uh, one year.:blush: I'll go off and sit quietly under the bus again now.

[QC]

61. ITS ONLY GOIGN TO BE A TO MINUTE PRAYER!1!1!!11!!!!11