We don't need Lieberman.

[mac56]

Or Collins. Or Snowe. Or Coakley.

We have a majority. Right now.

We just have to act like it.

No need for hand-wringing.

End of transmission.

[TheWraith]

1. And you end a filibuster how?

That's a question the "just do it!" proponents never seem to answer.

[mac56]

2. You don't.

Let it happen. Televise it. Make them go on record.

I don't understand people wetting themselves out of fear of a GOP filibuster.

[TheWraith]

3. Filibusters do not work that way.

This isn't Mr. Smith Goes To Washington. There's nothing to televise. The bill just stops.

[mac56]

5. Oh yeah? Senate Rule 22?

From Wikipedia:

"All Republicans have to do is say they intend to filibuster, and they've got one. Under Senate Rule 22, though, the Majority Leader has the authority to force a traditional filibuster, meaning that the Republicans must have a quorum and must speak for 24/7. Furthermore, the Majority Leader has the power to put nothing else on the agenda, meaning that until the filibuster ends, no other legislature will be considered. This would force the Repubs into non-stop marathon of speaking and it is a tactic that was used to break the filibuster that was blocking the Civil Rights Act."

[TheWraith]

6. Please point out where Senate Rule 22 says that.

"Regardless of the provisions of Rule II or Rule IV or any other rule of the Senate, at any time a motion signed by 16 Senators, to bring to a close the debate upon any measure, motion, other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, is presented to the Senate.

The Presiding Officer, or Clerk at the direction of the Presiding Officer, shall immediately state the motion to the Senate body, and one hour after the Senate meets on the following calendar day but one, he shall lay the motion before the Senate and direct that the clerk call the roll, and upon the ascertainment that a quorum is present.

Without debate, the Presiding Officer shall then submit to the Senate by a yea-and-nay vote the question: "Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?"

If that question is decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn -- except on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting -- then said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of.

After this point, no Senator shall be entitled to speak in total for more than one hour on the measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate. No Senator shall speak on the unfinished business, the amendments thereto, and motions affecting the same, and it shall be the duty of the Presiding Officer to keep the time of each Senator who speaks. Except by unanimous consent, no amendment shall be proposed after the vote to bring the debate to a close, unless it had been submitted in writing to the Journal Clerk by 1 p.m. on the day following the filing of the cloture motion if an amendment in the first degree, and unless it had been so submitted at least one hour prior to the beginning of the cloture vote if an amendment in the second degree. No dilatory motion, or dilatory amendment, or amendment not germane shall be in order. Points of order, including questions of relevancy, and appeals from the decision of the Presiding Officer, shall be decided without debate.

After no more than thirty hours of consideration of the measure, motion, or other matter on which cloture has been invoked, the Senate shall proceed, without any further debate on any question, to vote on the final disposition thereof to the exclusion of all amendments not then actually pending before the Senate at that time and to the exclusion of all motions, except a motion to table, or to reconsider and one quorum call on demand to establish the presence of a quorum (and motions required to establish a quorum) immediately before the final vote begins. The thirty hours may be increased by the adoption of a motion, decided without debate, by a three-fifths affirmative vote of the Senators duly chosen and sworn, and any such time thus agreed upon shall be equally divided between and controlled by the Majority and Minority Leaders or their designees. However, only one motion to extend time, specified above, may be made in any one calendar day.

If, for any reason, a measure or matter is reprinted after cloture has been invoked, amendments which were in order prior to the reprinting of the measure or matter will continue to be in order and may be conformed and reprinted at the request of the amendment's sponsor. The conforming changes must be limited to lineation and pagination.

No Senator shall call up more than two amendments until every other Senator shall have had the opportunity to do likewise.

Regardless of other provisions of this rule, a Senator may yield all or part of his one hour to the majority or minority floor managers of the measure, motion, or matter or to the Majority or Minority Leader, but each Senator specified shall not have more than two hours so yielded to him and may in turn yield such time to other Senators.

Notwithstanding any other provision of this rule, any Senator who has not used or yielded at least ten minutes, is, if he seeks recognition, guaranteed up to ten minutes, inclusive, to speak only.

After cloture is invoked, the reading of any amendment, including House amendments, shall be dispensed with when the proposed amendment has been identified and has been available in printed form at the desk of the Members for not less than twenty four hours."

[WillyT]

4. That's Right... Isn't It... Ole Joe Ain't Quite So Important To The Caucus After Today... Is He ???

Hmmm...

:evilgrin: