Dean: 'People Who Blame Others Are Losers'

[kpete]

Dean: 'People Who Blame Others Are Losers'
Ben Frumin | January 19, 2010, 9:24PM


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"I certainly don't think it's a referendum on President Obama," Dean said.

Maddow seemed to be surprised that Dean wasn't blaming Democrats for the Massachusetts race. "You're the only Democrat in politics right now who's saying anything like that," she said. "Democrats formed a circular firing squad over this election."

Maddow also called it "an incredible breakdown in party discipline."

Dean agreed, and suggested a new direction: "This is not the time for pointing the blame."

*********People who blame others are losers. If you want to win elections, you stop blaming and get to work.

more:
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/dean-people-who-blame-others-are-losers.php

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Here, here!

:thumbsup:

--d!

[Babel_17]

2. Good advice (nt)

[BunkerHill24]

3. Dr. Dean is right

He learned that from medical school. I was hopping they would give him position of HHS, until they gave it to someone who lawyered them self to governorship.

[Me.]

4. Rahm Has Already Been Pointing Fingers

!

[Justitia]

10. Yup, MSNBC reported that Rahm sent out a "Burn The Witch", i.e. Coakley msg before polls were closed

[RufusTFirefly]

5. +100000

Like people who blame Nader for the Supreme Court's theft of the Joe-mentum-enhanced 2000 presidential election.

If you lose -- even if the results are questionable -- you don't blame, you learn and you adjust.
That's what smart adults do.

Blaming is just the way losers use to avoid confronting reality.

[tinrobot]

6. Hopefully, this will be a swift kick in the pants.

[derby378]

7. Dean is trying to be nice

Eventually, we'll pick ourselves up and move forward. But first we have to find out what - or who - is keeping us stuck to the ground.

[shireen]

8. i disagree with the good doctor ...

I love Dean, he's the real deal. But i think that assigning blame after a failure is necessary. How else are we going to analyze what went wrong? How do we keep people accountable for their actions? How do we learn and adapt? Blame is necessary if we want to be honest with ourselves and work towards not repeating the same mistakes.

There needs to be a thorough analysis of what went wrong, not by pundits and talking heads, but by unbiased academic researchers in psychology and political sciences.

[shireen]

9. dupe, deleted

[Justitia]

11. Dean is not wasting time on the usual circular firing squad, he wants to fix this mess.

If you are spending time killing each other, you aren't working on getting it right.

As usual, Dean is right and saying things no one else is saying.

Remind me again why this administration froze him out of any place we could use his talent?

I mean, he only won fucking elections and stuff for us :crazy:

[tomm2thumbs]

12. I'm shocked that no one is blaming Teddy - for skipping town on us

or is that where things are sinking to next? The bottom line is blame goes to the one on the ballot. Period. It is their campaign and they own it 100%.

[Luminous Animal]

13. Okey doke Dr. Dean. Get to work on what?

Electing Democrats? Is that the only goal?

What a ridiculously stupid shallow rallying call.


"We want to win elections!"

-"How?"

"We don't know but as long as we don't question how we won't be losers!"

[Justitia]

14. guess you didn't see his piece or you wouldn't have posted such ignorance

should we give you the benefit of the doubt?

[Luminous Animal]

15. I clicked on the link but I can't see more than the text.

If there was more besides the OP's quote the title's emphasis on "loser" then perhaps you should be a mensch and enlighten.


Does Dr. Dean have substantive ideas about how to promote democracy and democratic ideals? Or does he only think that we should vote for Democrats.

[Justitia]

16. egads. You are in a hole, stop digging. If you didn't see the piece, you should think twice about

commenting on it.

Have you ever even heard Dean speak - ever?

chutzpah - Hebrew version

[Luminous Animal]

17. Did you click on the link? I can't see anything else but the info in the OP. I can't afford cable.

And, it appears that the video either won't load or it is not available yet. If you have any information other than insults, you should provide it. I've heard him speak, but that gives me no more information than you asking me if I've heard him speak.

[Justitia]

18. Here is a video link to the piece...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#34946241

[Luminous Animal]

19. Thanks. Geez, I heard Dean blaming Dems

for not getting out the message on health care reform. He must be a loser.

[Justitia]

21. huh?

[cabluedem]

20. Dean put the blame on an innocent truck driver in 1971 when his first wife...

and daughter were killed when she pulled right out in front of the trucker, who had the right of way. I guess that makes Dean a loser. The trucker was NOT drunk, as Dean kept saying.

[cali]

23. what are you talking about?: he's never been married before

his marriage to Judith.

[pampango]

22. Howard, it is always SOMEBODY ELSE'S fault, never my fault or the fault of those who agree with me.

I may feel that fault lies with those further to the left or further to the right or those above me (e.g. certain national politicians) or below me (e.g. low-information voters) on the political food chain. I prefer to view our reaction to something like this loss in Massachusetts as a "spherical (or 3-D, if you prefer) firing squad" since we are able to shoot at those to the left or right and above and below us, always confident that we will not shoot ourselves and those who share our viewpoint.

In politics, as in "real life", after a setback you need to figure out how it happened, so you don't repeat the same mistakes again. While this involves a certain amount of "It's your fault, not mine" (and on the internet, there will be a whole lot of that), either the group gets past that and works to get back on track or the group (or relationship) falls apart because the common bond is broken.

It will be interesting to see the analysis of the vote. Did repub turnout win the day? Was Democratic (particularly the "Democratic wing of the Democratic party") turnout down? Was it independents or low-information voters swinging back and forth that made the difference? While we all want to spin events as an affirmation of our beliefs, an analysis of the election (as opposed to an "instant analysis" we see so much of) will help determine whose "fault" it really was and how we can avoid repeating the same mistakes.