Democrats, just shut the f**k up already!!

[Harry Monroe]

Subject: Just shut up already!!
Message:
Just Shut Up!

Josh Marshall | January 19, 2010, 8:07PM



Message of the day to all Dems, Coakley, Rahm, Celinda Lake, national Dem committees, Axelrod, whoever, whatever: Shut the *$%& Up! I don't know how else to say it. I'm watching MSNBC and hearing all the key players dumping on each other. As I've said, the Coakley campaign seems to have been run just terribly. And that's just the beginning of it. But really, with all that's at stake, the White House political office left this to Coakley, unsupervised? Really? I just have very little patience hearing all the people who are by definition all to blame have an argument about who's most to blame.

What I'm seeing -- and this isn't just based on public comments but our reporting behind the scenes -- is that there's a lot more energy going into dodging blame for this unforced error of galactic proportions than there is going into the real issue: closing the loop on the health care bill. Which is the only issue in policy terms and political terms. That's it. Everything else is water under the bridge.

And the key is this: this nonsense arguing is very reminiscent of 6 months of chatter and wasted negotiations that prevented this from getting done in the early summer instead of letting it get to this point. Which was n-e-e-d-l-e-s-s.

Jon Chait has this right. The Dems need to relax, get to work, pass the bill and move on.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/01/just_...



Suck it up and move forward!! This 60 vote supermajority is a smokescreen. Jon Stewart had a great piece on it the other night about Democratic crybabies and how Bush and his Republican majority Congress rammed legislation down the throats of Americans with a simple 51 vote majority in the Senate. If the Democrats want to get any real change accomplished, they'll have to start growing a set and get over it. Work with the majority you have, not the majority you wish you had. Pelosi, Reid etc. will have to start doing their jobs as majority leaders and start playing hardball, get Democrats in line to vote as a bloc and use the House and Senate rules to the majority party's advantage!! Start acting like a majority party for once Democrats!! Otherwise just shut the fuck up!!

[still_one]

1. You are right, but it won't happen /nt

[derby378]

2. Democratic majorities do not pass Republican legislation

And the Senate health insurance bill is as Republican as they come.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. K&R I like Josh

[monmouth]

4. So very well said...n/t

[treestar]

5. I'm sick of hearing about Bush

He had 911.

All he wanted were tax cuts, which can be done by reconciliation.

People too uninformed to get the difference are the ones who should STFU.

[Statistical]

7. Ok longer time scale then. The republicans have NEVER had an 18 vote majority since 1923.

How did Republicans pass anything in the last 90 years?

The 60 vote supermajority was a smokescreen.
If it required a supermajority to get anything done literally NO LEGISLATION would have been passed in last century.

[BeFree]

10. How?

The pubbies are a solid block and the dems are like a bucket of water sloshing around every time a knee-jerks.

[treestar]

12. They didn't require it because the Democrats were reasonable

Even the Republicans were reasonable once. i thought LBJ had some of them who would vote for what he wanted?

It's a requirement now, since the Rush age, the Republicans have become completely unreasonable. Unless you want the Democrats to do the same - in fact that seems the mantra - be just as bad as they are, with a belief that the voters will choose the Democratic unyielding fanatics rather than repuke ones.

[vi5]

9. Yeah, just tax cuts.....

...and war....and another war.....and the patriot act.....and Medicare Part D.....and No Child Left Behind.....and on....and on... and on..

But other than that, yeah. Just tax cuts.

And yes, I know that Dems were and are complicit in all of those things happening. That's kind of the point.

[treestar]

13. To be fair, in Oct. 2001 who was reasonable?

Again, that was an anomaly. Only Feingold voted against the Patriot Act in the Senate, I recall. And he comes from a very liberal state. So he could kind of afford to.

Same with the wars.

It's not really comparable. The American public is easy to stir up for a war, but not so easy to get a social program out of.

[Statistical]

14. Medicare part D, No Child Left Behind, ,,,,

The idea that the only thing Republicans passed in last 20 years is tax cuts is just plain stupid.

Medicare part D, No Child Left Behind, massive expansion of pentagon funding (under all 3 Republican Presidencies and unrelated to war on terra), missile defense system, Cental America Free Trade Act (CAFTA), NAFTA, Partial Birth Abortion ban, "Don't Ask Don't Tell", Defense of Marriage Act, Communication Decency Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, repeal of windfall profits tax on oil companies, expansion of AMT from ultra-rich to middle class (Tax "Reform" Act of 1986), bailout of Savings & Loans.

Also it was what programs they didn't fund, blocked funding, or actively cut funding to. Cuts to social services, medicaid, welfare, social security, EPA, dept of education

[pocoloco]

6. “Yeah, I don’t do cowering.”

Maybe that was why I was expecting Charles Barkley?

[truedelphi]

8. The "Daily Show" also had an excellent skit about why we are

STUCK with the 60 vote majority thing.

It shouldn't be that way, but back in June of 2009 when the Repugs starting whimpering, "No Bill Pass-y! No Bill Pass-y!" The Dems, god bless their spineless souls, all said, "Oh okay!" and thus the 60 vote requirement for passing bills became policy.

[kestrel91316]

11. Healthcare reform is dead in the water. We lack the votes to pass it. ROM