Medicare-for-All:"Si !!" - - Private Mandates (Romney-Baucus-Lieber-Care): "NO !!!!!"

[Faryn Balyncd]

The message is loud & clear:



Despite 65% to 72% of voters supporting "a public plan like Medicare" for all, by January only 34% supported the emerging Frankenstein's monster of perpetual MANDATED enslavement to a cartel, a mutant creation whose only likeness to the promise of "reform" was in its now misleading name.


Americans continue to support for the president's campaign principles of healthcare reform:
- - - (1.) a public plan open to all
- - - (2.) no mandates
- - - (3.) no middles class tax hikes, specifically no John McCain-esque taxation of healthcare benefits


But as voters saw the Senate Finance hearing begin with the banning and literal arrest of the doctors and nurses supporting Single Payer, the selling of principle to Big Pharma and Big Insurance, finally the spectacle of the White House pressuring the Senate to bow to Joe Lieberman and crush the last remnant of a public option (the Medicare Buy-In Option), their anger grew.









So if the only bill we "can pass now" is a corporate mandate that will destroy us at the polls, not to mention making future transition to Medicare-for-All more difficult, if not impossible, what is the alternative?


Perhaps we can regroup and try listening to the people:

(1) Kill the mandate now! (Are you listening, Nancy?)

(2) Stand on principle, and fight unwaveringly for Medicare-for-All.

(3) Give no quarter: Force the obstructionists to actually physically filibuster (let them stand up and drone on, with their urine bags in place, until the American people see them for the corporate tools that they are).

(4) If they are to defeat the plan Americans desire, Medicare-for-All, force them to publicly vote down an uncorrupted bill, and make them pay for it at the polls in November.

The Republican game plan was for us to pass an unpopular corporate give-away while they kept their hands clean, and let us self destruct in November.....


But they have no defense if we stand on principle for the American people.







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"If Barack Obama’s bill gets changed to exclude the public entities, it is not health insurance reform…it rises and falls on whether the public is allowed to choose Medicare if they’re under 65 or not. If they are allowed to choose Medicare as an option, this bill will be real health care reform...."

- Howard Dean

[sharesunited]

1. How many pages would a bill have to be to lower the age of Medicare eligibility to zero?

[sabrina 1]

2. I think it could be done in about three pages. The same

number Paulson produced to get trillions of tax-payer dollars to bail out his Wall St. buddies.

[sharesunited]

5. Oh I like that comparison! It really was short and to the point.

[BR_Parkway]

56. + 1,000

an excellent comparison

[tinrobot]

3. One page more than zero.

[Edweird]

13. Probably 1, until egos and pet interests get involved.

[tinrobot]

4. It can also be passed with only 51 votes.

I think we need to double down and make it happen.

[walldude]

37. It will have to be a buy in to pass with 51 votes.. which is fine

There is no good debate against the Medicare buy in. The repukes can't bitch because it will pay for itself. The baggers can keep their crappy for profit insurance and the people who aren't covered get affordable coverage. It's a win, win, win, win situation, Hartmann has been talking about it for months I have been posting about it, there is a movement to get it done. It's the best workable solution.

[Cleita]

6. K&R

[TBF]

7. Recommended. n/t

[Kitty Herder]

8. K&R

[Luciferous]

9. K&R

[Edweird]

10. Well, I've read Obama has committed to moving further left. This is the ideal issue to prove it.

I would love to see him get with the program and avert the otherwise inevitable political disaster.
K&R

[laughingliberal]

15. Yep nt

[Ganja Ninja]

11. K & R

[Lugnut]

12. K&R

Medicare for all is the right thing to do.

[AspenRose]

14. K&R

Thank you FB

Bookmarked as well

[aaronbav]

16. Bravo! Well Said!! K & Highly R'ed!!!

[Mithreal]

17. Damn right. No Quarter.

[AlphaCentauri]

18. Now we can blame Brown for any inconvenience

:evilgrin:

[cap]

19. kick it to the heavens

Yeah!

[cap]

20. Next Question... how do we make it happen

How do we make Obama do the right thing!

We need to organize on this point.

[20score]

21. Hear hear! A big K&R!

[Ignis]

22. Ugh, the very idea of "Lieber-Care" is nauseous.

:puke:

[SlingBlade]

23. WOW ... YES !! @! K & R

Thom Hartman is now giving the Corporate Lanny Davis Corporate Democrats the TRUTH !

This corporate take over of the Democratic Party was no more evident than during the
above Congressional Meetings when Progressives and Liberals who wanted real reform
were hauled out and arrested for stating the truth.

This is what happens when you stab your base in the back
Clinton and the rest of these Corporate Democrats can kiss my ass till their
pointy little heads explode.

[blindpig]

24. The only choices have always been single-payer or nothing

They intend to give us nothing, or worse.

k&r

[Bluenorthwest]

25. We know what the solutions are

and it is criminal to do otherwise. Medicare 4 All.

[peace frog]

31. Hear hear!

MEDICARE FOR ALL. Nothing less will suffice.

[ihavenobias]

26. Too sensible.

Logical, widely supported ideas like this seem to be shot down very quickly by this Admin and Congress. It's sad.

[SlingBlade]

27. Thom Hartman is on fire :)

[dana_b]

30. cool

I'll have to listen later on.

[Uncle Joe]

28. Kicked and recommended for an excellent post.

Thanks for the thread, Faryn Balyncd.:thumbsup:

[dana_b]

29. k&r

for listening to the majority!

[leftynyc]

32. Kick and Rec

Terrific diary and exactly how I feel. Time to go on offense and leave the fantasy of bi-partisanship in the age of tea baggers in the dustbin of history.

[Mithreal]

33. Congressman Grayson was just on the Ed Schultz radio show

so about 3/4 into the first hour.

I always really enjoy hearing from him, but he did say something that sounded stupid to me, despite leading up to it with a lot of the usual gems.

I'll do my best to paraphrase. He said the MA race should not be seen as a referendum on health care because everyone in MA has health care. I thought that was the dumbest thing I have ever heard from him. Does he not know how people feel about Romneycare?

Someone who knows more about this Romneycare, please jump all over that idea and post something.

I will call Grayson's office myself, give some feedback. Here is a tollfree capitol number. 1-877-851-6437

Edit to add, I called, what a pleasant sounding staffer who took my message.

Edit to add a second comment. Still listening to Schultz, he is so full of shit sometimes, but I always knew that. Still, I will cheer him when he is right.

[StarfarerBill]

34. Yep: let's actually force Medicare-for-all and dare the conservacentrists to kill it. K&R

[Douglas Carpenter]

35. kick and recommend

[Individualist]

36. K&R

[Douglas Carpenter]

38. here is the link to the full text of the late Senator Ted Kennedy's Medicare for All bill

link:

Text of S. 2229 <109th>: Medicare for All Act

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-2229

.

[midnight]

51. D.C. thanks for this amazing link and info. I'm printing the 15 pages and

will read all the way through, but just glancing through this is like finding a treasure. At first glance it looks like we have everything we need...

[burning rain]

39. k & r

.

[flyarm]

40. K&R!!!

[BurtWorm]

41. kick

and rec

:toast:

[glitch]

42. k & r nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

43. THIS is one that the American people can understand and get behind

I've been advocating this since the start. It's probably the only good path that is achievable. Especially now.

[bvar22]

44. K&R X 1000.

This is THE BEST prescription for the Corporate Cancer infecting the Democratic Party!

"When given the choice between a Republican, and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voters will choose the Republican every time." ---Harry Truman

QED

[ibegurpard]

45. If we're going to pass "something"

why not this?

[amborin]

46. K&R and, email Pelosi and tell her:

http://www.speaker.gov/contact/

[endless october]

47. k/r, medicare for all.

the best solution, and the simplest.

[bertman]

48. Hear!! Hear!! Recommend highly. Thank you, Faryn Balyncd.

[Stinky The Clown]

49. BRAVO!!!!!

Huzzah!!

[dajoki]

50. K&R

[leftstreet]

52. K&R

[WorseBeforeBetter]

53. K&R (n/t)

[Luminous Animal]

54. kick

[dkf]

55. Can you imagine repubs trying to fight against Medicare?

Just Let them try to demonize it.

This is a political winner and very easy to explain and understand.

[DisgustedInMN]

57. Perfectly logical..

... which is exactly why it doesn't stand a chance.

Sorry to be such a cynic...

But it's been a year since they've even bothered using lube.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

58. K&R