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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:14 PM
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Are people watching Ed - they aren't going to move forward with ANY legislation until Brown seated

Droning on about how CHILDREN with preexisting will be covered....(not everyone, just children)

On & on about how the insurance companies don't like this bill. On & on & on....

The health insurance companies don't like it.

He sounds like a idiot.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:15 PM
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1. The Soviets once said that America would sell it the rope with which it
would hang itself. I think the same applies to today's democrats.
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:19 PM
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3. It is just so insulting. How stupid do they think we are?

The health insurance stands to gain 40 million customers, many subsidized by the government, and a mandate where people will be forced to buy their shitty product, and they have the balls to try and sell this as somehow anti-insurance.

They are running ads against it!

They are just going to piss people off more.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:16 PM
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2. What a rip
Most young children are too young to have pre-existing conditions.....
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:22 PM
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4. Exactly. And, the fact that they are reduced to selling legislation

that ONLY prohibits denial for kids, it really shows how far off the rails this 'reform has gone.

No denial for anyone with preexisting conditions was recently one of the MAIN selling points. It was painful to watch.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:22 PM
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5. I can think of several ....
Type 1 Diabetes, Cystic Fibrosis, Tay Sachs Disease (sp), congenital malformations at birth, hemophilia and other inherited diseases. There are also many forms of Leukemia that children are afflicted with more often than adults. And many, many more. Pre-existing condition clauses are of concern to people of all ages and should be abolished. It is not like you ask for them or go looking for them. People get sick through no fault of their own, but they are treated like they somehow brought the illness on themselves.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:24 PM
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6. Thanks. I was diagnosed with insulin dependent diabetes at age 7.
There was plenty of company in my children's ward, too.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:30 PM
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18. Thanks ...
My neighbor has type 1 Diabetes and I have type 2 which didn't hit until 1993. My neighbor is not doing so well right about now, and we watch out for each other so I guess I am hyper aware of that one.

I hope your Diabetes is under good control and that you are doing well. It is a major illness for both children and adults, but I think it has to be harder to deal with when you're a kid. Kids don't really have a sense of what mortality is, and there are so many things they have to limit to maintain their Diabetes. Good luck to you and take care.
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:28 PM
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11. No one is saying that it isn't a good provision...

It is just pathetic that they are not applying it to everyone.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:30 PM
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13. You didn't make a dumb post about how kids don't have pre-existing conditions,
either.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:45 PM
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21. who did?
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:44 PM
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20. I'm not saying there aren't any pre existing conditions and hopelully they'll be covered....
But when you go from single payer, to public option to mandated insurance with pre existing conditions removed to pre-existing conditions removed for children.........where is this bill going?
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:24 PM
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7. Any excuse to drag the process on even longer.
The damn bill should have been passed at least 6 months ago, and wold have been in they REALLY wanted it.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:26 PM
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8. Just another "generous" gift by Obama ...
to his Republican colleagues. Just what we needed. Another conservative extended a presidential invitation to screw us over even more. Joy.

Welcome to DU. ;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:27 PM
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9. Ed sounds like an idiot? Or Gibbs?
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:29 PM
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12. Gibbs -

Talking over Ed. Refusing to answer any of his points. Refusing to admit that this bill is a sellout to the insurance companies in any way. It was downright insulting.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:33 PM
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17. I completely agree
I watched it and was dumbfounded. Gibbs came off as an arrogant jerk.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:28 PM
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10. So this childfree adult is going to be taxed to support other's kids whil
I get nothing?

F**k the Dem leaders! They are WIMPS and they should do this nation a favor and resign so that we can fill their positions with people who will fight for ordinary Americans.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:31 PM
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14. Do you hate paying for public schools, too? Sun city, Arizona LOVES
you...
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:32 PM
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16. No, its more cost effective than prisons
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jonathon Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:31 PM
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15. Let's not divide among ourselves. It is the corporations and the sell out politicians

Supporting children benefits the entire society...not just the parents.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:38 PM
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19. Weak, spineless, gutless
all too often.
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