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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:46 PM
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Vanden Heuvel says Dems need a HCR bill, any bill
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 06:50 PM by clear eye
and should push one through before Brown is seated to avoid creating a bad precedent for future reform bills of any sort. (on the Ed show) Gee, what a deep, nuanced understanding of how a bill would affect people in real life (not).

Does anyone else notice that guests not vetted by the WH are no longer appearing on the liberal MSNBC shows? Will we ever see Glenn Greenwald, Chris Hedges, Elizabeth Warren again? Why hasn't Jonathan Turley been asked about the meaning of the filing against Bushco before the ICC?

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:33 PM
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1. Katerina van den Heuvel of The Nation?
Boy, there's a centrist toady from a weak, DLC-controlled magazine! :sarcasm:

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:39 PM
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3. +1,000
:hi:
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:54 PM
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4. She is not the entire magazine.
Thank goodness. She has just enough intelligence to keep smarter journalists than she writing for the magazine. But they are no longer showing up on TV.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:27 PM
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10. she's one of the owners.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 12:09 AM
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11. I'm aware of that. Please read the body of my post. n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:35 AM
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12. I read it. I'm not sure why you're irritated with mine.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:35 AM by Hannah Bell
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:12 AM
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13. I indicated that she is in control of who writes for the magazine.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:12 AM by clear eye
I just found it a little strange that you still presumed I was ignorant about what I was writing about.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:53 PM
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14. an editor is also in charge. sorry you took it as a presumption of your ignorance.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:07 PM
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5. yep; they got with message discipline and/or drank the kool aid n/t
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:40 PM
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15. Today on Ratigan's discussion of the move toward new bank regulations
we got Rep. Stabenow instead of Rep. Kaptur and Prof. Warren. It was painfully obvious how much less she knew than those on the "do not invite" list.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:17 PM
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8. Katrina vanden Heuvel is the editor, publisher, and part-owner of the Nation magazine:
= granddaughter of MCA ("the octopus") founder Jules Stein, who took over universal pictures, putnam's books, abc records, chess records, motown records...

MCA:

Moldea, Dan E. Dark Victory: Ronald Reagan, MCA, and the Mob. New York: Viking Press, 1986. 390 pages.

Three months on the Los Angeles Times bestseller list, this is the definitive history of Mafia influence in Hollywood, the hub of which is MCA. The Music Corporation of America began in 1924 as a fledgling band-booking company. It soon monopolized the business, and today is Hollywood's most powerful TV, film, and recording conglomerate...

Ronald Reagan was nurtured by MCA influence since his days as president of the Screen Actors Guild. In 1962 he told a grand jury that he couldn't remember why the Guild negotiated an exclusive arrangement with MCA that extended their monopoly. Years earlier, as confidential informant T-10, Reagan provided the FBI with information regarding Guild members whom he suspected were Communists. Reagan's glad-handing, "ah-shucks" style, apparently oblivious to the powerful forces manipulating him, has been evident since the 1940s."

"Mr. Stein had been sole owner of the organization until 1954, when he voluntarily distributed 53 percent of his interest to key executives and employees, with 10 percent of the stock placed in an innovative MCA profit-sharing trust. Mr. Stein served as president of MCA until 1946, when he made Lew R. Wasserman his successor as chief executive. He continued as chairman of the board until 1973 and remained a director thereafter. At the start of last year (before his 1981 death), he still owned or controlled more than 19 percent of the stock."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_C._Stein


Van den heuvels' mom:

"Jean Stein was married to Torsten Wiesel, a co-recipient with David H. Hubel of the 1981 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, for their discoveries concerning information processing in the visual system. Wiesel was the president of The Rockefeller University from 1991 to 1998. He is currently the director of the Shelby White and Leon Levy Center for Mind, Brain and Behavior at The Rockefeller University."


her dad:

Donovan, Leisure, Newton & Irvine: 1952 "Donovan, Leisure, Newton & Irvine was a white-shoe New York law firm. It was founded in 1929 by General William "Wild Bill" Donovan, often called the Father of the CIA."


"As an early protégé of Office of Strategic Services founder William Joseph Donovan, vanden Heuvel served at the U.S. embassy (1953–1954) in Bangkok, Thailand as Donovan's Executive Assistant. Afterward, in 1958, vanden Heuvel served as Counsel to New York State Governor Averell Harriman (Brown Brothers Harriman, with Prescott Bush).

He became U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's assistant in 1962 and was involved in Kennedy's 1964 and 1968 political campaigns...

In 1965 he joined Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, as Senior Partner..."

Stroock was named "Law Firm of the Year" by Securitization News in 2005.

Vanden Heuvel has held directorships in a number of public companies. They include: the U.S. Banknote Corporation, Time Warner, Inc., and the North Aegean Petroleum company, and others. Since 1984 he has been a Senior Advisor to the investment banking firm Allen & Company.<4>

Currently he is a director of the American Austrian Foundation and Co-chairman of the Council of American Ambassadors. Since 1984 vanden Heuvel has been Chairman of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is a Governor and former Chairman of the United Nations Association...a member of Collegium International, an organazation of leaders with political, scientific, and ethical expertise whose goal is to provide new approaches in overcoming the obstacles in the way of a peaceful, socially just and an economically sustainable world. He served as an honorary chairman of The OSS Society.


wiki


IOW, vanden heuvel is a rich daughter of cia/mafia families, & the nation = a opinion/information-management corp.

which is why this "leftist" gets so many tv gigs.

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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:38 PM
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2. There will be no Health Care Bill and Obama will be a one term President
He expended all of his Political Capital trying to pull america together and Republicans shit on him for it. They are absolutely gleeful over this defeat. It will be Obama's downfall just as Republicans predicted and planned on for the entire year. They are not about to stop now. Their entire agenda is to cause Obama and the Democrats to fail. They have no concern for American families what-so-ever. They are political animals and Obama just was not prepared for their intense hatred..
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:10 PM
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6. yes, but
don't blame it all on the rethugs

Obama walked right into their trap, starting from the very outset; remember the stimulus package? catering to rethugs and then not getting even a single rethug vote after genuflecting to them?

Obama has blown an historic opportunity for change; instead, it's painfully clear he's working closely with banksters, Big Pharma, big health insurers, etc.....

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:15 PM
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7. Obama spent his political capital on enriching Wall Street and the
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 08:16 PM by Marr
insurance industries. He and his fellow corporate Democrats looked at the downfall of the GOP as their big chance to step in and become Corporate America's new well-heeled toadies. Unfortunately for them, it's not 1993 anymore, and the DLC's old scams will not play in this present environment.

The GOP is a minority party. They didn't make Obama do anything.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 11:02 PM
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9. I also wonder if Rep. Marcy Kaptur will get anymore air time.
Kaptur's advice has been tremendously informative regarding bank regulatory matters. Her absence will be felt. We are seeing only the House liberal, Rep. Lynn Woolsey who submitted by campaigning for an arch-DLCer, Rep. Jane Harman.
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