Humane Society International expected to arrive in Haiti by Friday.

[flvegan]

Some folks here were asking about animal organizations and their first responders providing care for the animals that may have been injured during the quake...


Amid the fast-changing and round-the-clock relief efforts for Haiti, Humane Society International has assembled a team of trained veterinary experts to enter Port au Prince in the coming 48 hours. The team representing HSI, The HSUS and the Humane Society Veterinary Medical Assn., is partnering with a group in the Dominican Republic, Veterinary Care & Humane Services, Caribbean Project (VCHS).

Our HSI/HSUS/HSVMA field responders include a French-speaking veterinarian and a paramedic trained in disaster response and animal handling. They will be accompanied by two veterinary technicians from VCHS and a translator. The team will provide immediate animal care as it can, and also assess conditions for animals in the capitol city and surrounding areas. As circumstances permit, our experts will also advise emergency and relief workers on extra steps they might take in the coming days to alleviate the suffering of animals while the desperate work to help the island’s human population continues.

http://www.hsus.org/hsi/disaster_services/reports_from_the_field/2010_haiti_earthquake_11310.html

In addition, an international coalition of groups (United Animal Nations, ASPCA, HSUS, Best Friends, American Humane, IFAW and WSPA) have formed ARCH (Animal Relief Coalition for Haiti) will be transporting a mobile clinic once permission has been granted.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/animal-relief-coalition-for-haiti-grows.html

[slipslidingaway]

1. knr thanks n/t

[woo me with science]

2. Good news. Thanks. nt

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[SoCalNative]

6. Don't care HOW hungry I was

I'd never kill mine or someone else's pet just to eat.

And I would beat the holy crap out of anyone who tried.

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[SoCalNative]

10. Don't have kids, never will

and don't need food to survive for weeks at a time, only water.

And you'd best never EVER let me catch you trying to kill my pets for food, I don't care how hungry you or your spawn are.

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[Scout]

17. and too bad that people like you do have kids. n/t

[Maru Kitteh]

49. I can only imagine what "deleted" said but one can only hope there are more caring people

with children, to pass along those values than those who would pass down the value of cruelty.

[Ignis]

36. Hey, welcome to DU!

Nah, I'm just kidding.

[TicketyBoo]

28. Maybe that's why you don't, cannot, understand.

Don't have kids, never will

Then, it's hard to understand how people would put their kids ahead of pets. And it may also be hard for you to understand how they would put other people's children over pets, too. Yes, even their own pets. Because unless and until you have children (or, perhaps, beloved nieces and/or nephews), then it can be an abstract idea.

Once you have a child, you get it. You understand how important that other little being is to you, and you understand how important other people's kids are to them. The maternal and paternal instincts are some of the strongest in nature. Protection of one's children takes precedence over even one's own life.

Nobody loves their pets any more than I do. I think it's fine that people are down in Haiti helping animals because I'm sure that compassion towards animals is, ultimately, helping their owners, too — owners who may not have another living thing to cling to in their time of need.

But there is no equating the value of a human life with that of a pet's. That does not compute.

[roguevalley]

51. actually, most of us have kids and pets too and we still feel the same

way. funny, that.

[TicketyBoo]

64. So you are saying

that if you were in a burning building and it was a choice of saving your pet or your neighbor's child, you would choose your pet?

I wouldn't. I would mourn my pet (as I have done more times than I want to count), but I would save the child.

[Quantess]

29. Would you like the cat and dog meat combo pizza?

[alsame]

4. K&R

[sandyj999]

5. Great News! n/t

[bobbolink]

7. Ah, yes, the animals are always the most important.

:nuke:

[SoCalNative]

9. They are to some people

I care more for animals than the majority of people I come in contact with.

[bobbolink]

12. Yes, I recognize that. That is why none of you EVER post in support of poverty issues.

This is the same shit I saw after Katrina.

There were people KILLING THEMSELVES.... PEOPLE, because the media attention was off, they were kicked out of their temporary housing, and had no place to go and no way to survive. They were suffering, obviously, from trauma.

Yet, what did I see here, half the country away from NOLA? People going down and "rescuing" animals, "fostering" them, and taking care of them.

And not giving ONE FLYING FUCK that PEOPLE were killing themselves because they had no way to survive.

HUMANE???

Fuck, no.

Deluded and heartless.

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[SallyMander]

15. Yup, it's a well-known fact

that people who care about animals can't possibly care about people too. It's just too... difficult. Or takes up too much time. Or something.

Or not.

Why don't you save your venom for those who aren't doing anything to help anyone beyond themselves?

[bobbolink]

16. I'll "save my venom" for heartless people who need to join the human race....

or stop calling themselves HUMANE.

[Scout]

20. 'cuz every OTHER freakin' bleeding heart is already helping the people...

so a few of us want to help the animals too...

why don't you just shoot us, you're so humane.

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[Ignis]

34. Wow... "YOU are the ones who let PEOPLE DIE."

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

Does that quote ring any bells?

And yet, you blame HSI for the deaths of Katrina survivors. :freak:

[SallyMander]

21. So if i have two rescued pound puppies

but also volunteer at a homeless shelter, and sent money to Haiti relief, where do i stand on your scale of humanity?

[bobbolink]

25. Wherever you WANT to stand.

HUMANE people could understand the expression of pain from a homeless person who is told constantly that we aren't important, and sees animals get the attention.

You can hear the pain and understand, or you can denigrate.

When you can't even relate to people KILLING THEMSELVES for lack of a place to live, that speaks volumes... don't you think?

[SallyMander]

26. I understand that you're coming from an emotional place...

but your reply doesn't really address mine, and doesn't make any sense. So... guess i'm done.

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[Starbucks Anarchist]

41. You're talking to DU's resident Poor Person (TM).

Of course, there are many people on here going through incredibly difficult times, perhaps more than her, but only she knows what suffering is.

And if you're not constantly posting about the plight of the homeless in every single thread, even if that thread has absolutely nothing to do with the issue, then you're a heartless meanie who hates the less fortunate with every fiber of your being.

Of course, you'd think she'd be out helping the homeless instead of being superglued to the computer 24/7, but after all, only she knows what it's like to suffer.

:sarcasm:

[pecwae]

66. And that schtick

has gotten mighty stale.

[freeplessinseattle]

39. dude, you're wasting time posting on a computer

why aren't you spending every spare moment helping people? maybe these animal helpers don't waste any time dinking around on message boards so they have much more time than you do to help both humans and animals.

You are such a laughable hypocrite.

[roguevalley]

55. so, you're homeless. "...homeless person who is told constantly

WE aren't important and sees animals get the attention."

Ah, you have a problem. Fine. Some of us actually give to both causes.

You want us to 'relate to people KILLING THEMSELVES for lack of a place to live, that speaks volumes ..." yes, it does.

[roguevalley]

54. you make no sense.

[tango-tee]

59. Bobbo,

sending you a PM.

[LeftyMom]

31. You don't know what you're talking about and you need to shut the fuck up.

Almost all of the people I know who do animal activism are also deeply involved in caring for human needs, and a disproportionate number of them do so professionally.

Humans ARE animals. There's no competition, we're all in this thing together.

[Ignis]

33. You're painting with a broad and nasty brush.

Try the salad. :hi:

[bobbolink]

42. Good. I'm glad you got it.

[Ignis]

45. So, how much did YOU donate to Oxfam in 2009? (nt)

[bobbolink]

46. Good one... homeless people are only OK if they give money to your causes.

I'm guessing you were behind the idea of jailing homeless people, too.

[Ignis]

50. That's approximately $0.00 right?

Yeah, that's about what I figured. :boring: Talk is cheap.

And no, I'm not in favor of jailing homeless people. I've worked at shelters, kitchens, and mobile food-distro units in both San Francisco and Los Angeles. If anything, I'm more often in danger of being arrested for feeding homeless people.

Hyperbolic hypocrisy does nothing for homelessness in America. :thumbsdown:

[roguevalley]

56. and you are sad. what is your problem? Unless you are a rich

person sitting on your computer over identifying with a problem you will never know. I've met a few people like that. Is that you? Your concern is so exaggerated that it doesn't ring true. that is what a few of us are picking up here. Give my regards to Bill Gates. Oh wait. He helps animals too. Sorry.

[bobbolink]

62. Another heartless latte liberal heard from.

You have the RW talking points down really well.

[Ignis]

35. ...And I've never seen you speak in support of a free Tibet.

Why do you hate Tibetans? :rofl:

[roguevalley]

53. we don't? how would you know? And it is a simple fact among the

people I know who love animals that they treat people pretty well too. Too bad that is sometimes now reversed.

it is a sickness that people who step up to help all floundering life in need are somehow beaten right and left by those who profess to love and hope the best for people. I don't profess to know your story. Your tantrum about the suffering of others is odd. What the hell do you care about people helping the animals too? Some of the people who got their pets back found a new reason to live because of it. You sound like you are over-identifying with an event that you had no contact with just to kick people who want to help and are probably using their own money to do it. Being kind to ALL things that suffer is good.

people helping the animals too is 'deluded and heartless'? Not be a kentucky mile.

[flvegan]

19. Is that what I said bobbolink?

Or is this your usual boo-fucking-hoo that 120% of everyone's time isn't spent boo-hooing along with you about people. Because Jesus H. Christ on a cracker if 25 folks respond to animal concerns as opposed to the outpouring of both military and civilian support along with BILLIONS of dollars in support for human welfare. Do the people deserve it? Absolutely, as much as can be done for them. Should SOMEBODY maybe do something to help some of the animals? I sure as hell think so.

Just because you don't give a fuck about animals, doesn't mean I (and others like me) don't give a fuck about people. Matter of fact, I've donated more $$ to Haiti relief than I have to ANY of the orgs (combined) mentioned in the OP this year. Yeah, you just got told.

A jackass in every group.

[Scout]

22. excellent post n/t

[Ignis]

32. Your order of *crickets* is ready.

Facts are like sunlight to the ad-hominem vampires.

:yourock:

[lukasahero]

37. If ever there was a reply that should be nominated for greatest page

This would surely be it.

Bra-fucking-vo!

Thank you.

[freeplessinseattle]

40. round of applause

I just don't get people like this who have such hatred towards animals they disguise as a love for people. just gross.

Not to mention how hypocritical to be whining on a freaking message board about wasting time doing something other than helping people. walk the talk dude.

[tammywammy]

43. +1 Great Post. n/t

[Coventina]

47. Well, I guess I'll reply to you, flvegan, since the comment I really

wanted to reply to has been nuked.

I actually *was* homeless for a period of time. When I was a child my family was extremely poor and it resulted in our staying with family, and squatting in a church basement for awhile.

Somehow, that hasn't made me think that animals are not worth saving too.

I just don't get why *some* here think it's an either/or proposition.

*sigh*

[SallyMander]

48. +1

When I was 4 years old and my sister was born, i was worried that it meant my parents would love me less. Turns out love, caring, compassion and empathy don't work that way.

:hug:

[roguevalley]

57. I wonder if this person has a position on Michael Vick? Apparently

there is nothing we needed to do about him and his 'sport' either. SHEESH. I have/had five dogs and three of them were rescues. I suppose I was just suppose to leave them. Jesus has his eye on the sparrow and what we all do for the least among us, we do also unto him. May I rot in hell for saving my dogs, one of whom is in my sig line.

[uppityperson]

58. Thank you, here to quote you again...

"Or is this your usual boo-fucking-hoo that 120% of everyone's time isn't spent boo-hooing along with you about people. Because Jesus H. Christ on a cracker if 25 folks respond to animal concerns as opposed to the outpouring of both military and civilian support along with BILLIONS of dollars in support for human welfare. Do the people deserve it? Absolutely, as much as can be done for them. Should SOMEBODY maybe do something to help some of the animals? I sure as hell think so.

Just because you don't give a fuck about animals, doesn't mean I (and others like me) don't give a fuck about people. Matter of fact, I've donated more $$ to Haiti relief than I have to ANY of the orgs (combined) mentioned in the OP this year. Yeah, you just got told.

A jackass in every grou"

[CitizenLeft]

61. thank you.

[REP]

30. It's possible for most people to think about more than one thing at a time

Thank you for being that exception that proves the rule.

[roguevalley]

52. ah, taking care of animals a week after the hell of Haiti hurts your feelings.

Save all the lives possible, human and animal. I'm sorry you feel so daunted by compassion.

I have kennels and I stand ready to receive animals if we have another big earthquake up here. I am proud to be able to help if needed. I can take ten dogs or fifteen cats. :)

[noamnety]

63. When one of my friends served in Haiti

they were under orders not to give food to the children.

There were, however, no such prohibitions on feeding stray dogs.

Until he ordered his team to stop, his troops would sit feeding scraps to the dogs while starving children stood around and watched.

[pecwae]

65. Get a fucking grip will you?!

Your posts have become trite and with this one so over the top and ridiculous I can't take them seriously any longer. No one is taking anything from the people of Haiti by helping animals. Not the least, no one is taking anything away from you by helping animals in Haiti. But you knew that and decided to post your stupid shit anyway.

[w8liftinglady]

18. rabies and worms are rampant in Haiti..I hope they are careful.

[MoonRiver]

24. Yes!

Thank you HS!!!! :cry::loveya:

[Ignis]

38. K&R

HSI does some great work. Here's wishing them well in Haiti.

[Raine]

44. Great news! nt

:thumbsup:

[tango-tee]

60. Appreciate the links!

We donated to Doctors without Borders, will also donate to this worthy cause. K&R.

[pecwae]

67. KNR!

There are actually people in the world who can care about not only other people, but the innocent and voiceless as well. I'm incredibly happy to hear about the coalition!