If They Can't Get The Votes For A Reconciled Bill In The Senate, Where Would They Get The Votes...

[Me.]

For a fix?

[bemildred]

1. It's bullshit.

They don't want to do it now, and they aren't going to want to do it later.

[regnaD kciN]

2. The question makes no sense...

The assumption is that they can get the 50 votes required for reconciliation, but not the 60 for cloture. Therefore, the "fix" has to be entirely made up of budgetary items and nothing else, meaning that the only way to pass the essential non-budgetary items is to pass the current Senate bill through the House and then pursue the "fix" through reconciliation.

[backscatter712]

3. Not quite.

If a part of a reconciliation bill is declared to be non-Byrd-rule-compliant, what that means is that the Senate can vote to give that part of a bill a Byrd rule waiver, which would require 60 votes.

Essentially, all the Byrd-Rule-compliant stuff passes with 50 votes, and anything that isn't Byrd-rule compliant, but popular enough to get 60 votes can also get in there (maybe pre-existing condition clause bans - there's the possibility of getting Snowe & Collins to vote for the waiver for that.)

[Me.]

4. The Fix

Being bandied about is that they would fix what the house dems don't like about the senate bill, and not all of that is budgetary, so my question is how will they get the votes to fix the bill. And the answer is they won't so why make promises you can't keep.