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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:07 AM
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More The Fools We
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:08 AM by Me.
A year ago we were celebrating, joy in our hearts. We were finally going to get our country back. A year later we find massive unemployment, people losing their homes, a disaster of a health care bill, lobbyists at the table, a presidential advisor advocating they spy on people, the wars still going great guns, the Cons with more power than ever and now they're going to be allowed to gut social security and other entitlement lifelines Americans have. We've been punked big time
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:14 AM
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1. I've been posting stuff like that for some time, but all of a sudden
I'm starting to feel some hope.

The House Progressives have announced that they are in full revolt against the Senate version of Health Care Deform (not a typo), and Obama is starting to talk about putting some meaningful limits on the banksters.

I think maybe the Coakley debacle woke some people up.

Now if they can keep their miserable paws off SocSec, reverse course on privatization of the schools, get a real pubic works program going to build a new green infrastructure, extract themselves from useless wars, start restoring the civil rights the Republicans stole in the last 40 years, and just on general principles kick a Republican in the gonads for no immediate reason every now & then, I'd say we were on course to a progressive revolution.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:20 AM
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3. The Fact That The Deal For The Commission To Gut SS Has Been Signed
us a real kick in the stomach.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:40 AM
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4. And Notice How Quietly, Stealth-like, This Was Done
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:15 AM
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2. UNrec All You Want
The truth hurts and there's no way of backing away from that, So take yoiur angst out on this thread but it won't change the fact that change we can believe in isn't visiting this country this year or the next.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:47 AM
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6. Rec and a
:kick: x(
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:17 PM
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10. Recommended.
Strange days on DU.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:47 PM
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13. Recommend a great post.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:47 PM by Octafish
The nation voted Obama and gave him big majorities in the Senate and House of Representatives. The idea was to use the power of government to do what was necessary to save the country -- not advance the interests of the corporations and their owners. That's what pukes are for.
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NeeDeep Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:46 AM
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5. The natives are restless and they got pitchforks
Doing whats easy and not realizing what you're dealing with (anti-humans) could be Obamas death-nell, hope he wakes from the dream.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:03 AM
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7. My Last Shred Of Hope Is
a Lincoln like transformation, but am not holding my breath. After all, he's the one whose hand holds the pen.
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ChrisMCV Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:38 AM
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8. I would support a transformation
I am a conservative (I don't hide it either) but you know, I am so sick of ALL politicians turning out to be shills for corporate lobbiest. By the time they get to a position where they can actually be effective, they have been so corrupted by the system they won't do a damn thing for the good of the people unless they get the blessings of their corporate leash holders.

I was telling my co-workers when Obama won, at least he seemed to believe what he was selling us, even if I didn't agree with all of it, that was something I could respect. That little glimmer of hope for a good leader has gone out over the past year. There seems to be no integrity allowed within the borders of the District of Columbia and the screening seems to be FAR too effective.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:11 PM
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9. Egads, A Conservadem!
How did you make it past the detectors? :evilgrin:
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ChrisMCV Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:42 PM
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11. Ha
Easy, I didn't hide.
I have to admit, after NOT being banned, I had to restate my opinion of this place a quite a bit to a few people.
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:32 PM
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16. You've gotten to the heart of the matter
Money has utterly corrupted the entire system, possibly fatally. 'Democrat vs Republican' or 'Liberal vs Conservative' are merely ways to distract us from the real division: the Owners vs the Owned. Turning your enemies against themselves by creating false differences between them is something right out of Machiavelli.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:45 PM
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12. and all those things you mentioned will be blamed on the Dems
even though they are obviously just the result of Bush policies unchecked by the Dems.

American voters were sincere and hopeful--but if we ignore today's news (the "cut social security" commission) we are fools indeed. Although, frankly, after Obama's failure I really don't have a clue what we can try next.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:51 PM
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14. "It can happen here" "A Very American Coup," and "what to do"


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Yes, it can happen here. In some ways, it's already happening. But the key question is: at this late date, how can it be stopped? Here are some vectors for a change in course, and in mindset as well, if we are to avoid our own stealth coup:

1. Somehow, we need to begin to reverse the ongoing militarization of this country, especially our ever-rising "defense" budgets. The most recent of these, we've just learned, is a staggering $708 billion for fiscal year 2011 -- and that doesn't even include the $33 billion President Obama has requested for his latest surge in Afghanistan. We also need to get rid of the idea that anyone who suggests even minor cuts in defense spending is either hopelessly naïve or a terrorist sympathizer. It's time as well to call a halt to the privatization of military activity and so halt the rise of security contractors like Xe (formerly Blackwater), thereby weakening the corporate profit motive that supports and underpins the American version of perpetual war. It's time to begin feeling chastened, not proud, that we're by far the number one country in the world in arms manufacturing and the global arms trade.

2. Let's downsize our global mission rather than endlessly expanding our military footprint. It's time to have a military capable of defending this country, not fighting endless wars in distant lands while garrisoning the globe.

3. Let's stop paying attention to major TV and cable networks that rely on retired senior military officers, most of whom have ties both to the Pentagon and military contractors, for "unbiased" commentary on our wars. If we insist on fighting our perpetual "frontier" wars, let's start insisting as well that they be covered in all their bitter reality: the death, the mayhem, the waste, the prisons, and the torture. Why is our war coverage invariably sanitized to "PG" or even "G," when we can go to the movies anytime and see "R" rated, pornographically violent films? And by the way, it's time to be more critical of the government's and the media's use of language and propaganda. Mindlessly parroting the Patriot Act doesn't make you patriotic.

4. It's time to elect a president who doesn't surround himself with senior "civilian" advisors and ambassadors who are actually retired military generals and admirals, one who won't accept a Nobel Peace Prize by defending war in theory and escalating it in practice.

5. Let's toughen up. Let's stop deferring to authority figures who promise to "protect" us while abridging our rights. Let's stop bowing down before men and women in uniform, before they start thinking that it's their right to be worshipped and act accordingly.

6. Let's act now to relieve the sort of desperation bred by joblessness and hopelessness that could lead many -- notably male workers suffering from the "He-Cession" -- to see a militarized solution in "the homeland" as a credible last resort. It's the economy, stupid, but with Main Street's health, not Wall Street's, in our focus.

7. Let's take Sarah Palin and her followers seriously. They're tapping into anger that's real and spreading. Don't let them become the voices of the angry working (and increasingly unemployed) classes.

8. Recognize that we face real enemies in our world, the most powerful of which aren't in distant Afghanistan or Yemen but here at home. The essence of our struggle to sustain our faltering democracy should not be against "terrorists," with their shoe and crotch bombs, but against various powerful, perfectly legal groups here whose interests lie in a Pentagon that only grows ever stronger.

9. Stop thinking the U.S. is uniquely privileged. Don't take it on faith that God is on our side. Forget about God blessing America. If you believe in God, get out there and start trying to earn His blessing through deeds.

10. And, most important of all, remember that fear is the mind-killer that makes militarism possible. Ramping up "terror" is an amazingly effective way of shredding our Constitution. Putting our "safety" above all else is asking for trouble. The only way we'll be completely safe from the big bad terrorists, after all, is when we're all living in a maximum security state. Think of walking down the street while always being subject to a "full-body scan."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/20-13

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:54 PM
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15. "We" have been punked?
Speak for yourself. I knew what we were getting back then.
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