FreepUKES: pregnant Jews who choose to save mother's "sorry life" over fetus need Jesus

[Proud2BAmurkin]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823365/posts

Maybe the "jews" that choose to destroy the life of their children to save their own sorry lives should die or repent and receive their Messiah, Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God (Elohim) and His eternal sacrifice for their sins.
JMHO


3 posted on 04/25/2007 10:12:57 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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[Bonobo]

1. Leave that shit on FR. We don't need it here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Actually we need to see it

and if I could I woudl confront the antisemites for what they are

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. the antisemitism drips there

[aquart]

5. You don't think they'd pan Christian women the same way?

And DU can't condemn anyone for anti-semitism. Really. Calling it anti-zionism? Nuh uh.

[shenmue]

3. Even for that site, that's awful.

:wtf:

:puke:

"Sorry life."

Well, that just told me all I need to know about those people.

[dragonlady]

6. Jewish law REQUIRES saving the life of the mother over the fetus

It is an analogy to allowing self-defense when someone is chasing you to kill you. And Jewish law has been developed over thousands of years of discussion and argumentation to interpret the teaching of the Torah, or as the followers of Jesus call it, the Old Testament. Rabbi Jesus would probably agree with this position.

[polmaven]

13. And, if I'm not mistaken,

under Jewish law, life begins not at conception, but when the baby's head leaves the mother's womb. Is that correct?

[dragonlady]

14. It's not exactly a matter of when life begins

Here's a quote from To Be a Jew by Rabbi Hayim Donin: "Wherever there is a question of the life of the mother or that of the unborn child, Jewish law rules in favor of preserving the life of the mother. The status of the fetus as human life does not equal that of the mother. ... While a fetus is not regarded as a living soul until birth, it does have a status of potential life, the destruction of which is a serious matter."

He goes on to say that the authorities differ on whether abortion is permissible in such circumstances as birth defects, incest, or psychological harm to the woman.

[polmaven]

16. Thank you.

I appreciate the clarification.

Apparently, however, the "morans" don't feel anyone has the right to have any religious law that disagrees with their religious fascism.

Even my own Methodist Book of Discipline treats abortion rights much the same way as Rabbi Donan describes the Jewish law.

"Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or restriction the free exercise thereof.......FREE EXERCISE thereof, freeper morans....That does not mean we are all free to believe only the way YOU believe.

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!

[Left Is Write]

7. What I have to say about that isn't fit to print.

There are no polite words for it.

[piedmont]

8. I can't say I'm surprised by anything posted over there at American Taliban central. nt

[LynnTheDem]

9. Hitler's Germany would have loved these freeper "people".

Thank God tfreepers are a fringe group minority, the sick MFers.

[JoDog]

10. That's cold

Even for these people.

My favorite quote in the responses:

"I find it very difficult to believe that there are *any* circumstance where a third trimester baby must be sacrificed for the life of a mother."

Don't "believe"? Medical fact and faith are not the same. Yes, there are some reasons why a pregnancy may have to be ended that late to save the mother. Whether you believe in them (or the Easter Bunny, dragons or unicorns, for that matter) matters not. That's why talking to these people is like banging my head up against a wall.

Also, some of the folks claim that since the situation described can be fixed with a c-section that this teaching bears no merit today. Wrong. While a c-section does facilitate the birth in such deliveries now, the basic idea behind the rabbinical ruling--that the life of the mother overrules the life of the child until the child has started emerging from the birth canal--is still considered valid, and could guide decisions made this very day.

As far the snarky comment that "The rabbinical opinion of a Reform Rabbi has no weight," this rabinical ruling was issued thousands of years ago and entered into the Talmud. There was no Reform Judaism then. And the opinion of my Reform (female) rabbi carries weight with me, thank you very much!

I love it when these folks open up their mouths and reveal their stupidity.

[NashVegas]

11. I Found Something Similar

"They couldn’t know since they made it up much the same way as one might conclude that skid marks and blood was proof of a gory accident."

Hilarious, when you think about it.

[rockymountaindem]

12. Yeah, they really love us over there...

It's touching :sarcasm:

[Cameron27]

15. The ADL needs to see this.