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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:43 PM
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I am a Liberal First and Then a Democrat After That.
As a young, naive idealist in the 1960's. I quickly learned about the struggle within the Democratic Party between its progressive base and those that controlled it. Naive no more, I quickly learned that this struggle had long preceded me by decades and decades. And here we are in 2010 and it seems little has changed in that regard. And that's OK as long as we are aware of it and continue to deal with it.

It's as simple as the people versus corrosive big money, street activists versus cozy career politicians, and yes, passionate radicals versus an entrenched establishment within the Democratic Party.

It's an important struggle because the uber-rich and leisure class in America, the transnational corporations, the energy cartels already have a private and powerful national political party in America. They proudly own the Republican Party and are not ashamed to say so. They have their purchased and loyal "lawmakers" in Congress and their well-greased political machine fueled with unlimited cash from a very tiny slice of the population. And their purpose? To make sure that the people who own the country control the country.

That leaves the Democratic Party, which in this screwed up two party system that America is saddled with, is really the only viable hope to be the agent of change, the voice of the people. And that is why this battle for who controls our Party is as important as any fighting we may do with Republicans. That's why I believe that the Primary Process is more important now than ever before, even more important than the General Elections. For if our nominees to Congress, Senate and the Presidency are only Democrats in Name Only, then what, pray tell, do we "win" should they defeat their Republican counterparts.

And, it is in that pivotal American Primary Process where we proud Leftists, so disenfranchised within the Party currently, can make our numbers and voices really count. It's where we can choose who will represent us in those November elections every two years. It's where our numbers really count, it's where our activism trumps money.

It is in the Primary Process where we can rebuke those and take out of office those who have betrayed us and replace them with either a woman or a man who will stand up for children, for the poor, for the jobless, for the sick, for the homeless, for the environmentally sabotaged, for our American wage slaves, for women and women's reproductive rights, for racial equality, for the ending of American military imperialism abroad, for ending the economic military draft that "recruits" jobless poor kids into war-making, for the redistribution of the national budget from war to taking care of our own people, for universal and free health-care, for free university education, for the millions of undocumented workers who are living in the shadows in our nation in fear and in exploitation, for the full citizenry for gay and lesbian American women, girls, men and boys, for reforming the tax code and yes, redistributing the concentrated wealth in our country, and for liberating the millions of non-violent citizens from the prison cartel who languish there for petty drug use and petty crimes.

That's what I want the Democratic Party, not to stand for or to write into their "platform", but to fight for, and by God, to deliver when we elect them to power!

If we elect them, we should expect them to follow through. And betrayal should be rewarded by removing them in the Primary process.

I am a Progressive and a Liberal long, long before I am a Democrat. I always will be.




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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:44 PM
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1. Eleanor R admitted she would have voted for Norman Thomas in '32 had she not been married to FDR. nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:56 PM
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3. I had not heard that, but it doesn't surprise me. In fact, it delights me.
And of course, Huey P. Long, certainly helped to some degree push FDR to the Left. Thanks for the story about Eleanor, Captain Hilts. :)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:51 PM
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17. You are very welcom. Keep the Faith!
ER: Isn't that David Zephyr a dear?
FDR: Indeed he is! A capital fellow! You said...WHAT?
ER: Never mind. Move over, it's my turn to drive!

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:42 PM
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18. What a great photo.
That car is part of the FDR Museum/Library/Home in Hyde Park.

Franklin drove it up the hill to where Eleanor's cottage was with the Queen of England inside and, as I'm sure you know, the car was fitted with all sorts of gadgets so he could accelerate and brake with his hands. Upon reaching the top of the hill, the Queen told him she would not be riding back down with him.

Thanks for the photo.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:51 PM
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19. I love the photo for a lot of reasons. I think it's a fairly new discovery.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 05:51 PM by Captain Hilts
First, it's probably the last one where neither looks grey with fatigue.
They look happy.
The museum is going to recreate the road through the woods. They now have the property.
His driving scared the shit out of everyone.

I think it's her car. His small one with the dispenser for LIGHTED cigarettes was a Ford.

Ain't it grand?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:18 PM
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38. I'm thrilled to know you are such an FDR fan, Captain Hilts.
Two years ago, Carlos and I made the trek from California to that hallowed site in Hyde Park and spent one entire week in utter awe taking in his home, the cottage, the libary and museum and the grounds inch by inch there of our great hero, FDR.

I didn't know that they were going to recreate the road through the woods. Yes, his driving scared the shit out of everyone. We need him now. Oh, boy do we ever!

That photo hits me right in the chest with an emotional wallop.

And thanks for having Franklin and Eleanor speaking about me in that nifty dialog you provided. That is a keeper and made my day! You friggin' rock.
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LeftHandPath Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:55 PM
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2. I'm an American first...
and I think Jimmy Carter was the best President of my life time.

Everything he did during his term was in effort to try and prevent what we are going through now.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:36 PM
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9. He was ahead of his time on many things.
Carter pushed for a lot of deregulation, as you probably know, especially with the trucking industry which further strained the rail system in America. He was certainly ahead of his time on taking on the energy cartel who were out to break him. He also had a very, very liberal Congress at the time, LeftHandPath.

Domestically speaking, LBJ was the most progressive president since FDR.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 01:58 PM
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4. I agree with one exception
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 01:59 PM by Armstead
Back in the day, at least more of the leadership of the Democratic Party was oriented to progressive populism or liberalism as a guiding principle. LBJ may have been a bastard and screwed up on Vietnam, but he was our bastard in terms of economic and social justice.

These days, it has shifted to where the real power is held by corporate centrists, which has totally changed its ideological orientation.



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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:08 PM
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5. I agree with your exception, Armstead.
The Great Society was, in many ways, the second act to the New Deal.

You write: "These days, it has shifted to where the real power is held by corporate centrists, which has totally changed its ideological orientation."

Yes, and it is a cancer on our country and our people.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:42 PM
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10. That's why liberal Democrat was the default for many working people
IMO the sorriest thing that's happened over the last 40 years is that the very same people who used to be liberal and democratic by default on economic issues have been lured over to the side of those who would take away the very things that would help the average person today.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:00 PM
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13. Ain't that the truth?
I think it was Tip O'Neill who said that Democrats had been so successful with the New Deal and Great Society that working class Americans foolishly believed they were Republicans.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:27 PM
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43. I had a history professor who said the biggest mistake Democrats made was
the G.I. Bill for WWII vets because it wound up creating more Republicans who forgot who madeif possible for them to get an eduation. (He also admitted he was being facetous as he got his eduation using the G.I. Bill)

My dad's brother was in the CCC and what he learned there helped him start a business that was quite successful. And, once he had a few bucks, he turned Republican. I can remember my dad yelling at uncle that he wouldn't have had a dime if it wasn't for Roosevelt and it was a crime he was voting Republican.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:09 PM
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6. K&R... I am an "Issues Oriented Unashamed Liberal Advocate".
*Medicare for anyone who wants it.

*Immediate withdrawal of ALL military forces and "contractors" from the Middle East.

*Immediate reduction of Military Spending by at least 50%

*The immediate break-up (Trust Busting) of everything "Too Big to Fail".

*Fair Competition Legislation that lets Mom&Pop (small locally owned businesses and farms) compete with Big Box and Factory Farms on a level playing field.

*An end to "Free Trade" (Race to the Bottom)

*Organized LABOR and local co-ops.

*An end to the two-tiered Judicial System

*Prosecution of rich American War Criminals and War Profiteers. (Oh yes they did!)

*An END to "Corporate Personhood"

*Strictly Enforced Publicly Financed Elections (severe penalties for criminals)

*Transparent and Verifiable elections (Why isn't this a front burner issue with the Democratic Party?)

*Re-Regulation with strict oversight of Banking/Investment, Insurance, Transportation, Communications, Trade, Energy, Utilities. There should be NO Public Money for private Prisons, armed Private Police, armed Defense Contractors, private intelligence agencies, or For Profit Health Insurance Corporations.

*Immediate Civil Rights and Equal Protection for ALL. (No Exceptions)

*Free Quality Universal Education to everyone who wants it.

*Strong Social Safety Net and Consumer Protections.

*An end to The Patriot Act and a return to The Constitution.(especially Habeus and privacy protections)

*A refutation of the "Unitary Executive", and legislation to ensure it NEVER happens again.

*An END to Republican/Corporate influence INSIDE The Democratic Party !
(NO! They DON"T deserve a seat at the table!)


I don't demand everything at once.
I am more interested in DIRECTION.
When politicians move TOWARD the above, I will cheer and applaud.
When they move AWAY, I will oppose them.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.





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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:34 PM
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7. Excellent post; deserves a separate OP.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:35 PM
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8. knr this post, and the OP.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:02 PM
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14. I'm with you.
Every Democrat is not my ally.
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:28 PM
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20. I'll be happy to second every one of those sentiments!
:fistbump:
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:11 PM
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26. Also is agreement with both the OP and this post
This is a great Liberal checklist.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:19 PM
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29. THAT should be our platform in '10 and '12
It would pretty much cover everything. We'd take 45 states.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:46 PM
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Where do I sign up?
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:06 PM
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36. Hell, I'm voting for bvar22! n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:11 PM
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37. Me, too!
He got the playlist that I like best down!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:46 PM
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11. Likewise!
K&R
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:28 PM
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44. Make it 3!
And, he's a great guy. We miss him in Minnesota.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:46 PM
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12. Delete
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:46 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:31 PM
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15. KR
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:35 PM
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16. K&R
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:29 PM
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21. K & R
the likes of Nelson, Stupak and Landrieu do not preach what I believe. Democrats who do are becoming an endangered species on the national level.
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:29 PM
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22. I'm entirely with you on everything you've said, David!
:yourock:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:46 PM
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23. I'm a Democrat BECAUSE I'm a Liberal.
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 06:50 PM by UrbScotty
That means fighting for MORE and BETTER Democrats at ALL levels of government.

It means doing my part to make the Democratic Party more liberal at all levels.

I care for humankind, therefore I am a liberal.
I am a liberal, therefore I am a Democrat.
I am a Democrat, therefore I desire what is best for the Democratic Party.
I desire what is best for the Democratic Party, therefore I fight for progressive values to be embraced by all in our Party.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 06:50 PM
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24. Personally, I am a Liberal Socialist Democrat.
But that's me.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:18 PM
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28. +1 ...
Socialist is a scary word that means a law that will benefit all people and not just the super rich.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:07 PM
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25. K&R principles before party or politician
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:17 PM
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27. I support candidates, not the other way around.
They owe me loyalty. I don't owe them anything.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:23 PM
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30. I have PRINCIPLES, not a team mentality
Having a team mentality is natural in sports, deadly in politics, because the worst elements always exert the most peer pressure.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:20 PM
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39. Thank you.
Principles! Not platitudes.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:24 PM
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31. K&R.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:48 PM
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32. Another KICK...
...because I so strongly support this OP.
The Democratic Party badly NEEDS an epiphany.
I pray the election in Massachusetts will provide that!

Remember THIS "Democratic Party"
"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being."---FDR

If the Democratic Party does NOT return to its LIBERAL/POPULIST roots, we WILL lose it ALL!



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone




"When given the choice between a Republican, and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voters will choose the Republican every time." ---Harry Truman


QED

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:46 PM
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34. Paul Wellstone had great vision.... and so did Harry Truman.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:22 PM
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41. What an inspiring photo of Paul Wellstone.
bvar22, your posts inspire me!
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:50 PM
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33. K&R Ditto!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:53 PM
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35. K&R
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:21 PM
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40. Well Said David
And I Agree. K & R.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:24 PM
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42. I've always called myself a liberal....
when I saw Lanny Davis stating that he is a liberal and in his mind liberals have to take control of the label in the likeness of the new democrats, etc., on Ed's show last night...

I may have to change how I refer to myself. :hi: I owe you an apology in your Doormat thread weeks ago....you were correct, I was still holding out hope. Peace.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:37 PM
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45. No apology needed.
tnlefty, I wish I could be apologizing instead. But just for you, here's my old door mat again from my post last September. It seems appropriate to see it again. There's room for you right here with me and millions more. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6443129

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:59 PM
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46. Thanks, I was trying to hold out some semblance of hope
back then, but after the Stupak amendment, etc., I've taken my place under the bus.

After the Court decision today, I'll be even further back under the bus, but I'll have my self-respect for a while longer, and rum, tequila, etc. under the bus, food, too. There are ways to be happy under the bus or doormat. Big :hug:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:05 AM
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47. k & r
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:34 AM
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48. I just wanna give you a thumbs up...
For being just about the only such post I've ever seen that recommends engaging change through primary elections rather than sitting in the woods and screeching.

Kudos to you.
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DisgustedInMN Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:38 AM
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49. You speak powerfully for many of us.
Across the Nation, we MUST make our voices heard.

Get involved in your local Democratic Party and make it clear:

"I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."

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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:39 AM
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50. Well deserved KNR!
Last 3 sentences:

"That's what I want the Democratic Party, not to stand for or to write into their "platform", but to fight for, and by God, to deliver when we elect them to power!

If we elect them, we should expect them to follow through. And betrayal should be rewarded by removing them in the Primary process.

I am a Progressive and a Liberal long, long before I am a Democrat. I always will be."


Perfectly said. Policy over party most definitely.

"Say what you mean and mean what you say, then act accordingly," is what I would dearly love to hear and see from candidates. I'm tired of excuses.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:40 AM
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51. K & R
one time.
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Richd506 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:37 PM
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52. I agree with that
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unhappycamper30 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:38 PM
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53. K&R
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:06 PM
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54. I agree....
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:32 PM
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55. Amen to that
Parties change over time. In the time of Lincoln, the Republican Party was far more liberal than the Democratic Party. Loyalty to a party should last only as long as the party shows that it deserves loyalty, though its actions.
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