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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:06 PM
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To RW sheep: NOW do you see social issues were bait while SC was set up for PRO-FASCIST rulings
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:11 PM by blm
that would give MORE power to corporations to control this nation and its governance?

More power than any 100 million working class voters could ever have?

You really never LISTENED to what Roberts and Alito were saying about their pro-corporate positions during the hearings because FOX and the rest of corpmedia kept pumping the smokescreen of abortion and gays that they KNEW would keep you from seeing the very REAL fascism you have been actually supporting all along.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:08 PM
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1. They won't see that, they're brainwashed. They believe the
GOP is on their side. As for the 'values voters', if you promise them
school prayer and overturning Roe V. Wade, they'll happily give up democracy.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:09 PM
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2. +1. Alas.
n/t
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:48 PM
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16. +2
THere are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:34 PM
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20. ...and still believe most Dems are Good Guys, on 'their' side, but "cowardly"
LOL
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:01 PM
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27. the cowards are the ones so scared of BFEE that they WORK for Bush in exchange for a title.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:09 PM
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3. you are talking to the choir and your comment was phrased for the choir. Whatever.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:22 PM
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10. It was phrased to describe EXACTLY what has happened.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:29 PM
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13. There's nothing wrong with the phrasing, and the OP is exactly right.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:37 PM
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22. .
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:47 PM by Gold Metal Flake
Sorry. Emotions running high.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:10 PM
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23. understood....though, I agree with your earlier sentiment. ;)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:11 PM
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4. Um wont they be happy about this?
Isnt the Republican party a wholey owned subsidiary of corporations? This is a big win for them no?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:12 PM
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5. exactly.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:14 PM
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7. Seems Big Money and Corporations have a good chunk invested in our party.
We found the money for War Inc. and the Wall Street bailout lickety-split.

As for jobs and economic justice, universal healthcare, environmental protection, public education and everything else that would make life better for We the People, fuhgedaboudid.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:15 PM
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8. Republican lawmakers and fascists, yes. The working class urged to vote against working class'
issues really never wanted to believe the left was right about the GOPs fascist agenda.

This ruling should make it clear whose goals and interests were being served all along.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:13 PM
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6. They see corporations and the government as two distinct entities.
They hear the term "special interest groups" and immediately think of welfare mothers, not the Walmart down the street that just raped their town when they moved in, not the military contractors and heaven forbid not the banks!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:19 PM
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25. well, soon enough their flags will say Don't Tread on Microsoft...or Exxon...or Halliburton...
or General Electric...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:20 PM
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9. and not just corporations... this power is for the government too
both are now one entity. This is the part most republicans never understood. The reason for a left is to keep the right from becomming fascists. Since both parties are now adopting fascism, there is no checks and balances. So while the rightiiiies were brainwashed into thinking social programs lead to communism or socialism, ironically they helped bring the opposite extreme into our system of government and economy.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:23 PM
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11. They won't see it that way. They'll just see this as benefiting Republicans, hence good for them
They've always been too fucking stupid to see that supporting more corporate power is against their interest, so why should they start now?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:25 PM
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12. I wish I could rec this a million times...Harry Blackmun was right
"In one sense, the Court's approach is worlds apart from that of THE CHIEF JUSTICE and JUSTICE SCALIA. And yet, in another sense, the distance between the two approaches is short - the distance is but a single vote.

I am 83 years old. I cannot remain on this Court forever, and when I do step down, the confirmation process for my successor well may focus on the issue before us today. That, I regret, may be exactly where the choice between the two worlds will be made."

Justice Harry Blackmun, concurring in part, dissenting in part, Planned Parenthood v. Casey
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=505&invol=833



This is exactly what Justice Blackmun feared, that social issues would become a "litmus test" for nominees to the Court and that their judicial opinions on any number of far-reaching topics would be overshadowed by Roe. You absolutely nailed it.

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jpljr77 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:31 PM
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14. You're joking, right? This is THE EXACT RESULT THEY WANT.
To them, it means that groups (corporations, associations, etc.) will be able to spend unlimited amounts of money on political ads. What messages do these special groups typically spend money to advance? Yeah, "social" causes, like keeping gays in their place, telling women what to do with their bodies, and telling kids the Earth is 6,000 years old.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:31 PM
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17. the point is... the SC wasn't set up for their social causes though they BELIEVED it would be, all
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 03:43 PM by blm
the while we had been warning them that their pet causes were just the smokescreen the Fascists needed and exploited to get the working class to vote against their own rights.


Well....you don't see this far right court rushing to weigh in on all those hotbutton social issues the way the base was led to believe, and, in fact, they don't WANT to have to deal with it, and that is why Ted Olsen was sent in to argue FOR gay marriage in the California case. To try and prevent it from reaching Supremes.


The pro-fascist agenda certainly didn't have to wait long with this court, did it?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:32 PM
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15. All those people pooh-poohing warnings about rising corporatism, its reach in our own party
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 02:53 PM by kenny blankenship
And all those who rose to declare their love of capitalism and who extolled the wondrous virtues of corporations "who make everything good in this world", or who said corporatism was a chimera, a word without an object, or some kind of crazy leftwing hallucination, a mirage that just wasn't there...

I wonder how you're feeling today? Got anything to say?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:32 PM
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18. sorry to say, I'm sure there's plenty of them still here today....
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:33 PM
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19. So on the mark, blm. It's the working class right wing sheep who need to be schooled.
K&R.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 04:44 PM
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24. and that schooling won't come from CORPORATE MEDIA.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 03:35 PM
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21. So very true.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:20 PM
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26. K&R
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