Supporters of today's SCOTUS ruling owe this man a debt of gratitude:

[UrbScotty]

If not for his lies about the two parties being similar, etc., etc., Gore would've been president for at least one term, possibly two - and who knows who would be on the Court instead of Alito and Roberts?

So thank you, Ralph Nader, for all you have done to advance conservatism at the expense of democracy. :sarcasm:

[Bluebear]

1. Here we go again. But who confirmed Alito and Roberts?

[madinmaryland]

2. Republican Senates.

[DainBramaged]

3. Agreed, but but you are telling truth to the king Ralph supporters

need my shield? :yourock:

[yurbud]

4. so he won more votes in Florida than black voters Kathryn Harris purged?

[tmyers09]

11. That's always just "conveniently" overlooked.

[jgraz]

22. Along with the 300,000 FL Dems who voted for Bush.

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[Tesha]

14. Or perhaps some of the un-reccers think this tired horseshit has long-since deserved retirement.

That's certainly why *I* un-recced!

Full disclosure: I voted for Gore in both the primary and the general.

Tesha

[leftstreet]

6. Ah the Two Minutes Hate

[rucky]

7. That scapegoat turned into a corpse long ago.

you can do better than this.

[Generator]

36. Excatly and since we are pointing fingers what about Clinton?

What about Monica? Gore didn't want him to campaign for him because of Monica. It's also my dreaded mother-in-laws name. I blame Monica.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

8. By what right does this guy think he can exercise free speech?

The nerve of some people!

Hasn't the Supreme Court already ruled that you can't yell "Popcorn!" in a crowded theater, and that Ralph Nader can't say stuff? I think they ruled retroactively on the Nader part and even made it illegal to say this 10 years ago. We need to jail him now and celebrate freedom!

[texastoast]

9. Are you saying Gore/Lieberman

Looked like Gore Unleashed?

I think not.

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. Supporters of today's SCOTUS ruling owe this man a debt of gratitude:

Al From will burn in the hottest corner of Hell for what he helped the Repukes do to this country. :grr:

[Bluebear]

12. +1

[LoZoccolo]

15. No matter how you spin it, Nader lied.

And now he's trying to cover it up.

[NeeDeep]

13. He had plenty of warning about what could happen. . . but so did voters

but they both still felt they could afford not to care about the consequences. Long after Bush is gone this remorseless careless tragedy of an election will linger like an oil spill that keeps fouling a beach and killing us and our democracy.

[laughingliberal]

18. True. Ralph had to have known the effect on SCOTUS if nothing else was a big enough difference

And I have never bought that "not a dime's worth of difference" crap about Gore and Bush. Could be due to the fact that I followed Al Gore's career for years and, although he was VP under Clinton, he was always more of a populist than Clinton. Just my opinion, you understand.

The Nader voters likely never considered the ramifications of Bush's appointments to the court but there you have it.

Nader's role in the 2000 debacle, however, in no way mitigates the culpability of those involved in the theft of the vote in Florida.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. Or, thank Al Gore for not going after those votes and choosing Lieberman.

[krabigirl]

20. +1

[dhpgetsit]

17. It isn't that simple.

The problem is the winner-take all/electoral college system.
We should have Instant Runoff Voting, but that will never happen. Especially not now.

[ima_sinnic]

19. oh stuff a sock in it

only the simplest of simple-minded fools buys the simplistic, dumb argument that "it's all Nader's fault," a simple-minded slogan for simple-minded American know-nothing no-brains who long ago found critical thinking and reason too complicated and too much trouble. Easier to just accept what the sloganeers and marketers tell you. The same simple-minded know-nothing no-brains also believe everything they hear in commercials on teevee, which they regard as second only to the Bible as an authority on Everything. Ralph Nader's "responsibility" for 2000 is a well-paid ad agency product, bought and paid for by the same traitors and plunderers who have been wrecking democracy, education, and elections in this country for the past 50 years.

From now on, NOBODY may run for public office at any level except Officially Designated Candidates of either of the "two" "parties" who are approved by lazy asshole voters after seeing that those Candidates have Official Corporate Sponsorship. The "right" of any American citizen to run for public office is hereby declared null and void, because lazy non-thinking asshole Nader haters don't like it when they do!

[jgraz]

21. It's been 10 years and you still haven't figured it out.

Quite the learning disability you got there, Scotty.

[LoZoccolo]

23. Did Nader not tell people there was little difference between Bush* and Gore? n/t

[jgraz]

27. Did Gore do almost nothing to disprove that statement?

[LoZoccolo]

29. A lie's a lie and Nader told it. And I'm calling him out on it. n/t

[jgraz]

30. ... is a shit statement

It's campaign rhetoric. Gore should have taken it as a challenge. And he blew it. Completely.

[LoZoccolo]

31. So you feel that SCOTUS justices are insignificant?

No way to defend Nader's "rhetoric" and vilify this decision at the same time, unless you're just out to troll.

[jgraz]

32. ... is a shit statement

Ridiculous and hysterical. Nader ran, I supported his run. If Gore had been a better candidate, Nader's run wouldn't have mattered.

Oh wait. It didn't matter. Gore won.

[LoZoccolo]

34. Nader was an IRL troll and so were his supporters, only difference was

that hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result. Bush* didn't even believe in global warming, but OK, that's not enough.

[jgraz]

37. ... is a shit statement

[Zomby Woof]

25. Well, he lives and loves to share!

:puke:

[Zomby Woof]

24. Nader threads are so 2002

They serve NO constructive purpose whatsoever (no matter which side) other than to STIR UP SHIT.

[Flaneur]

26. Not this tired and myopic shit again. n/t

[Marr]

28. Odd. I don't remember the Democratic "leadership" raising a fucking finger to stop these justices'

appointments.

I think I'll blame them, seeing as they're actually... you know... representatives.

[ima_sinnic]

33. actually, Nader's been fighting "corporate personhood" since before you were born

and you're a goddam fucking idiot if you think "Gore would've been president" if Nader hadn't run.

go peddle your asshole crap somewhere else, dumbass.

[cloudbase]

35. Gore couldn't even win

his home state. Christ, even Mondale managed that.