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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:23 PM
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Hmm real bank breakup coming? Internationally?
I caught this little ditty over on the BBC... This could get interesting.



"UPDATE: 18:09

George Osborne, the shadow chancellor, has just told me that Obama's plan to break up the banks is consistent with the views he expressed in his recent bank reform paper.

His condition for implementing such a radical plan was that it needed international agreement.

Well, he has got that now. So he has told me - explicitly - that a Tory government would impose an identical dismantling of British banks to those suggested by President Obama.

Which will generate profound fear in the boardrooms of Royal Bank of Scotland and - more especially - Barclays."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/01/obama_to_break_up_banks.html
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:25 PM
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1. I wonder if "a very British coup" is coming...
Global capital doesn't like being fucked with.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:45 PM
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22. if it happens, imo, it will be more like the "breakup" of standard oil - which
actually left its owners richer than ever.
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:27 PM
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2. Concerted international action is needed
Especially in the EU. Otherwise banks will just move their headquarters. This is one reason of many why it pays to not be an international pariah, as we were becoming under Bush.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:29 PM
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3. I'm counting on a very global working class coup
I don't know why, but this situation reminds me of this quote:

"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." -- Winston Churchill
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:34 PM
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4. Gotta love Churchill, so many good quotes.. But
If the U.K. and U.S. are going to break up the mega banks this is going to be a titanic struggle.

And with the new SCOTUS ruling it had certainly better happen quickly and surely, and well before November.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:45 PM
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6. "...the new SCOTUS ruling ..."
If this doesn't agitate people enough to make demands for change, then we are a nation of sheople.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:53 PM
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14. What I meant was...
Now that the SCOTUS has made this ruling, the mega banks can fight back on the airwaves with impunity and billions in funding.

They may go down swinging, and the SCOTUS just handed them an open door to fight regulation buying public opinion.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:58 PM
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15. I got that. It's the most likely course of history.
But I'm hoping the SCOTUS ruling is the proverbial straw for enough people.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:43 PM
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5. Hmmm......
World Bank and IMF want to forgive all Haiti's debt.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7534135

Looks like something's definitely happening on the international banking scene, doesn't it?

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:48 PM
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9. The plates are shifting, sorry for that allegory, after the disaster
but that is the only way to explain it.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:51 PM
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10. Now that I think of it, this makes perfect sense in that it started the crisis.
The U.S. banks largely got their deregulation, and lack of new regulation by pointing to London and the lack of regulation there.

U.S. financial sector was losing out to London due to lax regulations there and used that to push deregulation here and stall new regulation. Icelend, Ireland and others followed suit.

I can see the bankers foaming about it to Obama when he was talking regulations, so if Obama went to the U.K. and negotiated regulation agreements between the U.K. and the U.S. then he's playing a great chess game there.

And pulling this out of the bag just after Brown was elected, especially if he follows through quickly with big reform, is just the thing to keep the independent voters happy.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:46 PM
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7. Good! Break up the banks!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:47 PM
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8. Ok folks start putting the puzzle together
US banks to be re-regulated and broken up.

British banks to be re-regulated and broken up

IMF and WB are about to forgive Haitian debt... and calling for a Marshall Plan.

We are right now living in interesting times. I suspect the Chicago Boys are having a few sleepless nights.

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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:52 PM
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12. The Chicago Boys should all drop dead...
sorry, but they have positively ruined Latin America.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:53 PM
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13. It starts with sleepless nights
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:08 PM
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16. Going to be another interesting year for sure
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:32 PM
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20. I think the political elites are getting fed up with the bankers
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:42 PM
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21. One can only hope
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:49 PM
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23. Or the elites realize folks all over
are plain out pissed off. So do what needs to be done before the torches and pitchforks come out
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:52 PM
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11. Globalisation.
The G20 has been working on this since the crisis first hit.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:24 PM
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17. Sweet, I hope this is finally something for real for all populations
being screwed by bankers, and markets.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:27 PM
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18. I want an international revolt against the bankers!
We need to get rid of them Knights Templar-style.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:31 PM
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19. Nahh we some of them alive
We need banks and bankers

But banks big enough to take down a nation if they fail are way past the point of monopoly and being subject to anti trust break ups.

And they need to be watched like hawks.
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