Do UNDERSTAND THIS: Citizens United did NOT lift limits on contributions for YOU and ME

[Land Shark]

The Supreme Court left intact the limits for direct contributions to candidates and political parties.

What's unlimited and un-regulable now is "independent" expenditures in direct support of candidates or in opposition to candidates, using their name(s).

READ: Only those who are rich enough to pay for their own media campaign are now without limits. You and I can't afford that, and in almost all cases our contributions would go to parties and candidates. And THOSE are still most definitely limited by law. You already know the amount per election cycle, right?

So, don't be thinking that we'll just get those who donated $2,300 in the past to ante up for $10,000 apiece for some great candidate's coffers. That's illegal, under Citizens United.

NOW, CORPORATIONS DO NOT EVEN NEED TO SPEND A DIME TO CONTROL DC. THEY HAVE THE WELL KNOWN THREAT OF A MILLION DOLLAR NEGATIVE AD CAMPAIGN TO KEEP POLITICIANS TOWING THE CORPORATE LINE OUT OF FEAR, WHEREVER THEY DO NOT TOW THE CORPORATE LINE OUT OF LOYALTY.

[FarCenter]

1. Lift all the limits, but require full, expedited disclosure of all contributions on the web

[2 Much Tribulation]

2. Disclosures of contributions, where corporate, can readily disguise the true source

For example, under Nevada law shareholders are kept secret, so a political corporation can be formed by wealthy contributors and their names not be discoverable.

[rucky]

6. That only tells us who's doing the damage.

it doesn't mitigate it.

[Chiyo-chichi]

9. Precisely what I heard Newt Gingrich advocating on NPR yesterday.

Going on with nonsense about how this helps the middle-class.
I sat in my car yelling at him. One of those beautiful NPR "driveway moments."

[Gregorian]

3. We're overdue for campaign reform. No money in campaigns.

All government sponsored. Free airtime. No donations.

Until then, money will be a factor in who gets elected. Not the will of the people.

[onethatcares]

4. the great experiment is over, yeah, we hung on for a while

We the people no longer can control who is bought and paid for, not that we ever could, but it looks like it's getting closer to the pulling back the curtain time as we see the blood on the wall and the chairs being stacked. All that feel good bullshit we learned in school doesn't apply. Probably never did.

What are we gonna tell the kids?

[hfojvt]

5. you really think raising the personal limit would help?

So you are prepared to out-donate the Koch brothers, Bill Gates and other members of the billionaire's club? Really? Is that $2,300 limit really a problem for you? Because I, myself, have probably not gone over $200 on a single candidate.

[Land Shark]

7. No, I'm just saying that there will be no equalizing here... n/t

[Land Shark]

8. kick